Joe DeRosa (Better Call Saul, The Pete Holmes Show, Comedy Central) drops by Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend to announce the end of his podcast and talk about flinching, the end of his “unrelenting artist” phase, his take on suicide and selfishness, his take on “takes,” being adopted and whether he’ll find his birth parents, working with Jonathan Banks on Better Call Saul, working with Pete Holmes, grief, music, sci-fi/horror, his tensions with Anthony Cumia and Jim Norton and so much more. We also did a round of Just Me Or Everyone (click here to see the JMOEs from this episode).
NOTE: This is a crossover episode and will be available through Down With Joe DeRosa as well.
Podcast: Play in new window | Download
Download the episode from iTunes.
And guess what? The HGFY ringtone is now available!! Hooray! Search HEY GO FUCK YOURSELF in the itunes store!
Also, our live podfest ep with Doug Benson and Matt Costa is now available!
Wondering how to contact the show and submit your Just Me Or Everyone?
This show is brought to you by Amazon (clear your cookies first and what the hell, make a bookmark!). And shop in my Amazon store!
Credits? We have some!
Executive producer: Alison Rosen
Producer: Jeff Fox
Music: Trapp Dog Tom Rapp
Logo: Kezilla
follow @alisonrosen and @ariynbf for updates. Don’t use iTunes? Subscribe to the show’s RSS feed.
ALSO ALSO: like us on Facebook!
And read this review of ARIYNBFand read this article about ARIYNBF and buy the live episode from podfest.
You know where I'd like to hear disagreement with Anthony aired? On Opie and Anthony…one of the few places there was actual frank discussions about race issues. That said, being mad at Joe DeRosa is stupid. For one thing, nobody was going to save Anthony's job, except maybe Anthony. Maybe Patrice could have.
You know where I'd like to hear disagreement with Anthony aired? On Opie and Anthony…one of the few places there was actual frank discussions about race issues. That said, being mad at Joe DeRosa is stupid. For one thing, nobody was going to save Anthony's job, except maybe Anthony. Maybe Patrice could have.
Here is THE question for Joe DeRosa: What exactly does he disagree with what Anthony TWEETED? Why doesn't anyone actually ask the question? Because asking that question doesn't go along with the media narrative.
Does he disagree that “there is a violence problem in the black community?”
It isn't that that is an actually racist statement. It is a proposition that is either right or wrong. People accept the concept of a “black community.” So, that isn't really racist. Is there or is there not a violence problem?
Well, the reason is that people like Joe disagree with having to try to explain to people who use guilt by association and like positive generalizations (diversity is good) but don't like negative generalizations (if there is a black community, there is obviously a violence problem). He said he didn't want to have to try to explain his friendship to Anthony to his black friends. Well, start by telling your black friends to grow the fuck up. Imagine Patrice O'Neal not having a million funny and insightful things to say about this?
Joe didn't like that Anthony would TWEET something (again, not on air where Anthony has said far far more offensive things that XM, Sirius or whoever was perfectly fine with- aren't shock jocks paid to do just that?) that the racism hawkers could use to make him feel uncomfortable. These people want to use Anthony as a representative in the social status war. They don't want to actually discuss what he said because you can always claim something was offensive to some group without actually having to prove it.
Mostly, Joe was simply incorrect to think the issue was about anything other than Sirius using a plausibly deniable excuse to save some coin on Anthony's salary. That leads us to whether Anthony “deserves” a high paid radio gig, and the obvious answer is no. But he does deserve his friends to be logical and not fall prey to illogical arguments whether they decide to defend him or not.
I only know who Joe DeRosa is because of Anthony Cumia, so this is why I am justified in making the discussion, that's just for the record.
This is Anthony's tweet that got him fired (the others didn't help, but they would have not gotten him fired without this one as the button).
“There’s a deep seeded problem with violence in the black community. Try
to address it and you’ll be exiled to racistville. But it’s real.”
And that is exactly what happened. Try to argue. Go ahead.
Dear Alison,
I've been listening to your podcast for years now, and I usually enjoy it very much. I have been in chronic pain for over twenty years and have been home-bound for the last five years. Your shows usually put me in a better mood, especially the Thursday shows. So when Joe DeRosa started out by saying suicide would be a “healthy” decision for someone with irreversible physical pain, I couldn't finish listening to the episode. I understand what he meant, but it was something I really did not need to hear.
Yes, I was uncomfortable with that part of the discussion too. It seems like an irresponsible stance to put out there. I at least wish he would have qualified that statement with “severe” pain or something instead of just saying “pain.”
I'm glad he felt comfortable being real with Alison, but not knowing him as a comedian, it's hard for me to imagine him being funny.
I hope you find some relief. I had excruciating back pain for the past 2 years. I came to believe it was never going away. Thank goodness I don't care about accomplishing anything or I would have been more suicidal. Then it went away (mostly- but at least that told me it wasn't a permanent feature). My suspicion is that it was fybromyalgia-like caused by poor/disturbed sleep. I don't think DeRosa is talking about people like me. Also, keep in mind he started with “who cares what my opinion on suicide is.” And Alison was the one who used the word “healthy.”
I think what he meant was that if someone was in excruciating pain and they didn't have any hope of relief, such as a terminal illness, that he wouldn't judge such a person for choosing to end it in the only way available to them. He may have not described it accurately and a lot depends on where you draw the definitional lines, but personally I think holding any other view is cruel and weird to the point that I don't think one can really mean it. I'd also start with legalizing marijuana (and everything else for people in incurable pain, it's not like the medical system doesn't already kill more people with pain killers than “illicit drugs” do, duh). So, I think that is what we meant, compassion dictates that for people who are truly in that category, we should allow anything to them- and we shouldn't be so selfish as to think that suicide is all something they do to us.