I loved working for Adam Carolla, loved being a part of The Adam Carolla Show and was proud to be a part of the Carolla Digital Network. I’m enormously grateful for the opportunity, the laughs and the amazing run we had. I learned so much and thought I brought something special to the show as well.
While I was surprised at the way things ended, I understand this is show business, and all good things ultimately come to an end. Adam is the boss and has to run his show as he sees fit. The last thing I want is for our amazing four years to end on a down beat.
I’m sorry to the fans for all the controversy that’s arisen. Podcasting is an intimate medium and it’s a rare privilege to have become a part of your daily lives. In turn, you deserve the best from us.
I’m very excited about the future and the next chapter but I’ll miss sitting next to Adam every day.
I love Adam as a friend, a mentor and a comedian and I wish him and the rest of my Carolla Digital colleagues nothing but the best.
I'm sure you have a bright future ahead of you!
Looking forward to seeing what you do next!
I love you Becky Honkington.
You are Class act Alison. Nuff said.
Very classy. Rise above the nonsense.
Very well said and I'm glad you took the high road.
I love Adam, but I think he sort of fucked up. Will miss Allison on the show.
I feel like Adam had ten different things that were all 1s out of 10s that he was upset with you about and he added them up into a 10 out of 10.
This whole thing is unfortunate. Adam seemed genuinely surprised that people wanted an answer, or anything close to it.
It had long gotten to the point that I felt the ACS was a three-headed podcast, and that all three of you were the reason I stayed tuned in.
Hopefully this is all works out, for everyone.
Honestly there's too much podcasting goodness out there for me to stay glued to a 90 minute, daily show anyway.
Instead of being upset you won't be in our ears every day, know that the two times a week, or whatever it is you decide for a schedule, will just mean all that much more to us.
And of course I look forward to your appearance on The Film Vault, for a semi reunion.
Thanks for taking the high road Alison. I expected nothing less.
HUGE FAN, you were an inspiration to me. I've held on to many ideas of yours. Thank you Alison!!
I still miss the Alisonized Facts of Life song (a.k.a. the only time I paid attention to the news)
I downloaded his pod today even though I did not want to. I wanted to hear his expanded explanation. He was reaching in my opinion. His “lackies” some of which work for you still (we will see how long Adam allows that, or you for that matter) were a disappointment. I expect it from Bald but Gary did not have your back. Shame. I wont download his podcasts again that's for sure. He came across more then ever today a self centred dick. Watch out for Gary. Sink the pirate ship.
<3 Wonderful! You've shown a great amount of tact and have been completely professional through this whole mishap. I hope the ACS crew observes this and learns how to better handle situations like this in the future. The pot stirrers could adapt some of that tact as well, since they really are not helping. I can't wait to see what the future brings!! Keep positive!
Love this. I think it's time for everybody to move on, hopefully Alison can return as a guest someday on the ACS
I love you both, just like divorced parents.. Looking forward to e-visitations with both of you
I look forward to the dust settling someday down the road where you guys can be guests on each others' podcasts.
you were always a welcome voice to his wild rants, and you were let go in a very disrespectful way.
I always appreciated you on the show. I also know that good, talented people always land on their feet. Your next stop will be just as good, even better. Forward.
Wonderfully said. Can't wait to see what's next!!
I love you my little cheese doodle
I very much enjoyed the ACS but this has left a bad taste in my mouth and I think it is time to move on.
Adam explains in great detail why he fired Alison on his podcast (Monday 1/12) decide for yourself.
even after I listened to his 13 points today
are you still in the movie ?
Whatever. I'll listen to you over Carolla all day long. Don't even look back.
Wish people would just stop with the negativity about this. The negativity that forced the adam podcast yesterday and then this post. There was no malice that I saw anywhere. We didn't need to know “why” he made his choice. Just that he did. Moving on.
bravO
So everything adam said on his podcast about your relationship was accurate? Ok, I still would have liked to see alison s take on issues such as why she wouldn't contribute to the patent troll funds…
plus I blame myself , sorry , I always clicked off your banners because i met you once and saw that awful old car you used to drive . so glad i helped you get a Mercedes.
Glad to see you have the right attitude about this. All the negativity doesn't do anything except poison the well. Much love and good wishes for future success with your podcast and future ventures!
Don't zip it, not-cunt.
You are the picture of grace. Good job handling this tough stuff. <3
I believe no one is wrong in this situation. No one comes out of it looking bad either after listening to today's Carolla Show. I miss you so much on the show, but at the same time, you have so much more to offer. You had so many great moments on the show. I'd love a best of compilation. And I'll continue to follow you as well.
…AND would/could you at some point be a guest on Adam's show?? Or friend of the show (a la Jo Koy, DAG, Jay Mohr)? Or at some point have a weekly, or monthly segment (a al Dr. Bruce, David Wilde)?? If there really aren't any hard feelings, I wouldn't see why not. You should always have a place darn it! Plus 4 years is a very long time to just up and leave without popping up from time to time.
All the best!
I beck you Honk Lovington
I never expected you to be Robin Quivers. When I was a small boy I first heard Howard and Robin (probably 1980), I'm now a 43-year-old father of 2 children and enjoy your podcast more than the angry boys I used to listen to. I guess I've softened with old age.
Adam Carolla Show usubscribed. Alison Rosen is your new best friend subscribed.
Great job Alison. We all love you and will continue to support you
Classy, as always. Love and support you.
You are the living, breathing essence of Taylor Swift's “Shake it Off”. On the fan's side of things though, it helped me a bit to see so many people vocalize how upset they were at Adam because otherwise I'd be dealing with all of these fucked up angry emotions alone. I ugly cried for two days, for christ sake. Our pain is real.
All aboard the rapevan! Or was it lovebus now?
Zip it cunt! And I mean that in that with love. Thanks for your time on Carolla and you've earned a loyal dick slinging listener in the future.
Gonna miss your drops. I felt you gave a little bit of a second opinion to the show.
the email firing is total bullshit, though. low class move.
Class act Alison. The sane and rational people out here are disappointed and confused and disappointed again by this odd side of Ace. I cringed when he began his last podcast and turned it off five minutes in because I was frankly embarrassed for him. You were a phenomenal part of the show and one of the main reasons the chemistry was so good. Best of luck with all.
I’m sure you have a bright future ahead of you!
Looking forward to seeing what you do next!
I love you Becky Honkington.
So you don't want to comment on the fact that you refused to support the Patent Troll campaign the way that Marc Maron and others jumped in? Well this comment has to be approved, so I'll doubt we'll get an answer.
You are a Class act Alison. Nuff said.
Very classy. Rise above the nonsense.
Very well said and I’m glad you took the high road.
I'm with you all the way. Love your shows. I just still have to question that he 'tried you out' for FOUR YEARS… But, whatever. His loss, obviously.
Personally, I don't think it should have gone down this way. The two of you could have sat down and had a long talk about it. Then when he said that he didn't feel like you were a good fit and basically left it at that, you would have the option of divulging details at your discretion since you would have full scope of the situation. Airing a laundry list of personal gripes and perceptions is unprofessional. Adam was well within his rights to fire you for whatever feelings he had, he's the captain of his pirateship, but making a situation that forces him to pod all of his irritations shows a real lack of intelligent judgement on his part. Don't worry about it Alison. You're great and you obviously have very loyal fans (Including me!). Keep up the great work. We're all excited to see what the future holds for you. I'm sure it's great things!
I love Adam, but I think he sort of fucked up. Will miss Allison on the show.
I feel like Adam had ten different things that were all 1s out of 10s that he was upset with you about and he added them up into a 10 out of 10.
This whole thing is unfortunate. Adam seemed genuinely surprised that people wanted an answer, or anything close to it.
It had long gotten to the point that I felt the ACS was a three-headed podcast, and that all three of you were the reason I stayed tuned in.
Hopefully this is all works out, for everyone.
Honestly there’s too much podcasting goodness out there for me to stay glued to a 90 minute, daily show anyway.
Instead of being upset you won’t be in our ears every day, know that the two times a week, or whatever it is you decide for a schedule, will just mean all that much more to us.
And of course I look forward to your appearance on The Film Vault, for a semi reunion.
Thanks for taking the high road Alison. I expected nothing less.
HUGE FAN, you were an inspiration to me. I’ve held on to many ideas of yours. Thank you Alison!!
I still miss the Alisonized Facts of Life song (a.k.a. the only time I paid attention to the news)
I downloaded his pod today even though I did not want to. I wanted to hear his expanded explanation. He was reaching in my opinion. His “lackies” some of which work for you still (we will see how long Adam allows that, or you for that matter) were a disappointment. I expect it from Bald but Gary did not have your back. Shame. I wont download his podcasts again that’s for sure. He came across more then ever today a self centred dick. Watch out for Gary. Sink the pirate ship.
<3 Wonderful! You've shown a great amount of tact and have been completely professional through this whole mishap. I hope the ACS crew observes this and learns how to better handle situations like this in the future. The pot stirrers could adopt some of that tact as well, since they really are not helping. I can't wait to see what the future brings!! Keep positive!
Love this. I think it’s time for everybody to move on, hopefully Alison can return as a guest someday on the ACS
I love you both, just like divorced parents.. Looking forward to e-visitations with both of you
I look forward to the dust settling someday down the road where you guys can be guests on each others’ podcasts.
you were always a welcome voice to his wild rants, and you were let go in a very disrespectful way.
I always appreciated you on the show. I also know that good, talented people always land on their feet. Your next stop will be just as good, even better. Forward.
Wonderfully said. Can’t wait to see what’s next!!
Pure class. I love you!
I love you my little cheese doodle
I very much enjoyed the ACS but this has left a bad taste in my mouth and I think it is time to move on.
Adam explains in great detail why he fired Alison on his podcast (Monday 1/12) decide for yourself.
even after I listened to his 13 points today
are you still in the movie ?
I love it, you are the best. Loyal listener for life.
Whatever. I’ll listen to you over Carolla all day long. Don’t even look back.
Wish people would just stop with the negativity about this. The negativity that forced the adam podcast yesterday and then this post. There was no malice that I saw anywhere. We didn’t need to know “why” he made his choice. Just that he did. Moving on.
bravO
So everything adam said on his podcast about your relationship was accurate? Ok, I still would have liked to see alison s take on issues such as why she wouldn’t contribute to the patent troll funds…
plus I blame myself , sorry , I always clicked off your banners because i met you once and saw that awful old car you used to drive . so glad i helped you get a Mercedes.
Glad to see you have the right attitude about this. All the negativity doesn’t do anything except poison the well. Much love and good wishes for future success with your podcast and future ventures!
Don’t zip it, not-cunt.
You are the picture of grace. Good job handling this tough stuff. <3
I believe no one is wrong in this situation. No one comes out of it looking bad either after listening to today’s Carolla Show. I miss you so much on the show, but at the same time, you have so much more to offer. You had so many great moments on the show. I’d love a best of compilation. And I’ll continue to follow you as well.
…AND would/could you at some point be a guest on Adam’s show?? Or friend of the show (a la Jo Koy, DAG, Jay Mohr)? Or at some point have a weekly, or monthly segment (a al Dr. Bruce, David Wilde)?? If there really aren’t any hard feelings, I wouldn’t see why not. You should always have a place darn it! Plus 4 years is a very long time to just up and leave without popping up from time to time.
All the best!
I beck you Honk Lovington
I never expected you to be Robin Quivers. When I was a small boy I first heard Howard and Robin (probably 1980), I’m now a 43-year-old father of 2 children and enjoy your podcast more than the angry boys I used to listen to. I guess I’ve softened with old age.
Adam Carolla Show usubscribed. Alison Rosen is your new best friend subscribed.
Great job Alison. We all love you and will continue to support you
I've always liked Adam. I like him less now.
Pure class. My best to you and Daniel.
Classy, as always. Love and support you.
You are the living, breathing essence of Taylor Swift’s “Shake it Off”. On the fan’s side of things though, it helped me a bit to see so many people vocalize how upset they were at Adam because otherwise I’d be dealing with all of these fucked up angry emotions alone. I ugly cried for two days, for christ sake. Our pain is real.
I will miss you on Adam's show, and I will probably only listen to his show when he has a guest that I want to hear. I tried your podcast a few times, but it feels “too deep” and not enough comedy. Listening to Joy Coy talk about his family was not fun. I hope you have much success, and I will try your show from time to time when I need an Alison “I love you fix”.
I think the underlying problem is that the way it was done (and that it was done) revealed things we suspected but came to hope weren't true about the business and (some) people in the business (what would Jimmy do?). They want the benefits of fans thinking it is like a family atmosphere where things like loyalty and riding out a rough patch and giving people time to meet expectation happen, but then they want to have their cake and eat it too by treating things like this like trading in a used car…actually with less apparent (we don't know all the backroom dealings) sentiment than you'd treat your car.
All aboard the rapevan! Or was it lovebus now?
Not…interested.
First, I think he is wrong. Second, he didn't have to handle it so poorly.
Maybe I have Rosen colored glasses (actually I don't, but the question is not if she is perfect but who is better- no one), but Alison seems as loyal as Robin quivers and as funny as Jim Norton. She had no intention of leaving and taking her success with her so far as we know. And someone having a more successful podcast on your network is good for you btw. Bad sidekick my ass. This is just Adam's narcissistic personality disorder.
Zip it cunt! And I mean that in that with love. Thanks for your time on Carolla and you’ve earned a loyal dick slinging listener in the future.
Fake Theresa is good peeples.
Actually, Alison, would you be willing to ask to be a guest on the show and do great? I think you would. I think it would also blow everyone's mind.
Looking forward to a series of HuffPo bloggers as guests…not.
Very honest, heartfelt and classy response to Ace mans 45 minute dirt slinging rant yesterday. AR sets a new (higher) standard!
Gonna miss your drops. I felt you gave a little bit of a second opinion to the show.
At first I thought that Adam might be holding back the real reasons for firing you. After a lot of thought and listening to him talk with David Wild, I realized that he would tell the truth. If he were unhappy with your performance, you would have known. He does not hold back. I believe him when he says that he likes you, respects you, and thinks you're funny. Further, I think he's right; you will go on to much bigger and better things. Congratulations on how you have handled this whole thing. Hugs to you, Daniel, and your cute little puppy.
the email firing is total bullshit, though. low class move.
Just me or everyone, thinks this will end with Adam Carolla appearing on ARIYNBF.
People, get a life! It's not that big of a deal. Adam made a dick move, it's time to move on. Even after all of this, she owes her present status to Adam.
I'll miss your presence on Adam's show Alison but it's because of Adam that I have become a huge fan of yours so you've netted a loyal listener in me.
Now, everyone “Zip it!”, and let's move forward.
It's been an awkward couple of weeks because I loved you being a part of the show, went out to see you guys in vegas on my birthday and was heart broken that you were let go but understood it as he was the boss and behind the scenes if he wasn't satisfied then he has every right to decide which direction the show goes…
After all that being said I look forward to supporting your show as well his and wish you the absolute best success… also hopefully this means more red eye appearances!
I tweeted you to say that your last Thursday show was great. You will do great. I loved the ACS but I am finding it difficult to listen to it now without you. Keep it upward(s) and forward.
Thoughtful and respectful comments, Alison. Thanks to you, I was able to listen to the Carolla podcast for as long as I did. I maintain that the sum of that show was greater than all of the parts. However, I will not be missing you on that show because I won't be listening to it. Whether we knew it or not, it was time to move on. Good luck in where you go from here. You'll have my support. Thanks for the laughs.
So I guess everything Adam said was true?
Class act Alison. The sane and rational people out here are disappointed and confused and disappointed again by this odd side of Ace. I cringed when he began his last podcast and turned it off five minutes in because I was frankly embarrassed for him. You were a phenomenal part of the show and one of the main reasons the chemistry was so good. Best of luck with all.
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So you don’t want to comment on the fact that you refused to support the Patent Troll campaign the way that Marc Maron and others jumped in? Well this comment has to be approved, so I’ll doubt we’ll get an answer.
I’m with you all the way. Love your shows. I just still have to question that he ‘tried you out’ for FOUR YEARS… But, whatever. His loss, obviously.
Personally, I don’t think it should have gone down this way. The two of you could have sat down and had a long talk about it. Then when he said that he didn’t feel like you were a good fit and basically left it at that, you would have the option of divulging details at your discretion since you would have full scope of the situation. Airing a laundry list of personal gripes and perceptions is unprofessional. Adam was well within his rights to fire you for whatever feelings he had, he’s the captain of his pirateship, but making a situation that forces him to pod all of his irritations shows a real lack of intelligent judgement on his part. Don’t worry about it Alison. You’re great and you obviously have very loyal fans (Including me!). Keep up the great work. We’re all excited to see what the future holds for you. I’m sure it’s great things!
You fucked up, she spells Alison with one “L”.
Pure class. I love you!
I love it, you are the best. Loyal listener for life.
hopefully she will appear as a guest to plug with great plugtastic talent what she has to plug.
You are awesome Alison. As is Adam. As Adam says, Movin on!
Except that there were reasons when his first statement amounted to him just going with his gut on a whim (not that that would be admirable). Some people want to feel like they are supporting good people. I hated Adam on loveline because he acted like a bully. We want to believe it was an act (the callers were in on the joke) or the reasons (the callers were often jerks) but events like this make us think what we really don't want to believe- namely that someone's prodigious talent and motor can give them success despite their shortcomings. But sometimes it bites them in the ass too, and should.
You took the high road and did Alison's best, which is being practically perfect in every way.
I’ve always liked Adam. I like him less now.
Pure class. My best to you and Daniel.
I will continue to subscribe to both podcasts. Not everything has to be high drama. I hope everyone on twitter has learned a lesson on class from Alison
I love Adam and his humour. Unfortunately, I think in this decision his ego was more important than what his audience loved, and ultimately as a result his show will take a turn for the worse
I will miss you on Adam’s show, and I will probably only listen to his show when he has a guest that I want to hear. I tried your podcast a few times, but it feels “too deep” and not enough comedy. Listening to Joy Coy talk about his family was not fun. I hope you have much success, and I will try your show from time to time when I need an Alison “I love you fix”.
I think the underlying problem is that the way it was done (and that it was done) revealed things we suspected but came to hope weren’t true about the business and (some) people in the business (what would Jimmy do?). They want the benefits of fans thinking it is like a family atmosphere where things like loyalty and riding out a rough patch and giving people time to meet expectation happen, but then they want to have their cake and eat it too by treating things like this like trading in a used car…actually with less apparent (we don’t know all the backroom dealings) sentiment than you’d treat your car.
Im kind of in the same boat as a lot of people. Just lost interest in the ACS. Allison is only a small reason, but I guess the change alone just didnt sit well.
Not…interested.
First, I think he is wrong. Second, he didn’t have to handle it so poorly.
Maybe I have Rosen colored glasses (actually I don’t, but the question is not if she is perfect but who is better- no one), but Alison seems as loyal as Robin quivers and as funny as Jim Norton. She had no intention of leaving and taking her success with her so far as we know. And someone having a more successful podcast on your network is good for you btw. Bad sidekick my ass. This is just Adam’s narcissistic personality disorder.
Fake Theresa is good peeples.
I've always been a huge fan, Alison. But the class and grace you've demonstrated during an awkward and difficult time has made me admire you even more. You go, girl! 2015 will be a big year for you, I just know it.
Actually, Alison, would you be willing to ask to be a guest on the show and do great? I think you would. I think it would also blow everyone’s mind.
You're a class act Alison. When I heard the news, I felt like I was kicked in the gut. You and Bald were an equal part of the show's appeal and I'm not sure I'll listen to Adam anymore. As a business owner, I know that there are business decisions that need to be made, however, his method of termination was a chicken-shit move and it's made me question his entire “shtick (sp?)”. I've definitely lost a ton of respect for him and have gained a lot of respect for you. You've gained a new listener… Keep smilin'….
Looking forward to a series of HuffPo bloggers as guests…not.
You are a class act. Adam was thinking with his “other” head and wanted to see Gina's big breasts daily. Her annoying laugh is enough to keep me tuned out unless the guest is really someone I want to listen to.
Very honest, heartfelt and classy response to Ace mans 45 minute dirt slinging rant yesterday. AR sets a new (higher) standard!
At first I thought that Adam might be holding back the real reasons for firing you. After a lot of thought and listening to him talk with David Wild, I realized that he would tell the truth. If he were unhappy with your performance, you would have known. He does not hold back. I believe him when he says that he likes you, respects you, and thinks you’re funny. Further, I think he’s right; you will go on to much bigger and better things. Congratulations on how you have handled this whole thing. Hugs to you, Daniel, and your cute little puppy.
Seems like the issue here is that none of you were consulted before Adam did what he had every right to do. I was surprised at some of Alisons' refusals to be part of the carolla family but I am certainly not offended that Adam chose not to give me a heads up that he was bothered by those things.
I will continue to listen to the ACS because it is funny and sometimes insightful. Alison, I wish you well and hope your new independence is a positive in the end.
Just me or everyone, thinks this will end with Adam Carolla appearing on ARIYNBF.
Well said, and I would expect nothing less. Looking forward to see what comes next.
People, get a life! It’s not that big of a deal. Adam made a dick move, it’s time to move on. Even after all of this, she owes her present status to Adam.
I’ll miss your presence on Adam’s show Alison but it’s because of Adam that I have become a huge fan of yours so you’ve netted a loyal listener in me.
He was totally reaching.
Now, everyone “Zip it!”, and let’s move forward.
It’s been an awkward couple of weeks because I loved you being a part of the show, went out to see you guys in vegas on my birthday and was heart broken that you were let go but understood it as he was the boss and behind the scenes if he wasn’t satisfied then he has every right to decide which direction the show goes…
After all that being said I look forward to supporting your show as well his and wish you the absolute best success… also hopefully this means more red eye appearances!
I tweeted you to say that your last Thursday show was great. You will do great. I loved the ACS but I am finding it difficult to listen to it now without you. Keep it upward(s) and forward.
Thoughtful and respectful comments, Alison. Thanks to you, I was able to listen to the Carolla podcast for as long as I did. I maintain that the sum of that show was greater than all of the parts. However, I will not be missing you on that show because I won’t be listening to it. Whether we knew it or not, it was time to move on. Good luck in where you go from here. You’ll have my support. Thanks for the laughs.
So I guess everything Adam said was true?
Here's my take (as if anyone cares): I like Adam and think he's great and I don't take any offense in his humor and I'm sure I have that in common with most of his fans. I'm a like-minded guy of about the same age so everything he says and the way he says it resonates within me very strongly. All of his references I can relate to, his memories about the 70's and 80's are the same as mind and I share almost all of his views and my mind on some others have been changed a couple times by him. I even worked at a McDonald's when I was a teenager. Anyway, here's the “problem” I think he was fixing at Alison's unfortunate expense. Despite Adam's talent, some walls have been constructed barring him from mainstream entertainment industry circles, or so it seems to me and I would have no way of knowing as I'm a coast away and don't work in the business. If that is the case, though, perhaps his unparalleled growth in the podcast medium makes him “right' for a possible seat now at the adult table. I'm thinking that a publicist/PR firm is working to clean him up for bigger things. One of the things that might need cleaning up is his type-casting as the entertainment's leading misogynist. Let me be clear. I in no way think Adam is an actual misogynist, racist, sexist or any of the words/labels we like to throw around these days. But…Alison's news sign-off phrase presents a big problem to people outside his fanbase, I'm guessing. I think someone whispered in his ear and told him he had to throw out that dirty bathwater, but how could he do that without taking heat from his fans on the show. I think it's calculated misdirection to make the news about throwing out the babe (and I mean that Alison – you're hot) and then nobody notices that it was all about getting rid of the bath water.
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Bottom line is Carolla canned Rosen by email while she was on vacation across the country and claimed he only did it because she wanted bad news by email. Yeah right.
Since many of the “reasons” he claims he fired her for were all about him getting his feelings hurt – she didn’t say goodbye to me at the Christmas party, she didn’t invite me to her house, she didn’t ask me about my weekend when I went racing, wah, wah, wah — I think we can assume something happened during xmas break where once again he got his feelings hurt and decided he’d had enough.
Probably she booked her flight, he asked her to work because a “good” sidekick is available 24/7, she said she can’t and so he got his panties in a bunch and fired her in a way that would purposefully ruin her vacation.
If he wants to convince anyone his flunkies aren’t flunkies, let’s hear from the flunky who typed the email firing her.
The new music for their news doesn't even try to be upbeat. As if they are preparing the listen to be unentertained. Unentertained should be a word…
You fucked up, she spells Alison with one “L”.
What really sucks is you didn't even get to enjoy a racist twitter rant, offensive on-air comments, or get caught exposing yourself in public. Better luck next firing!
Adam only made one mistake. Not letting you know what was expected of you. Simple.
You wouldn't contribute to the patent troll through your Amazon links? He was the whole reason that you had a podcast! Please tell me that there is another side to that story….
Why would you not want the Carolla Digital loga on your banner? Did you read Adam's or Balds book? Is it true you didn't want to support Adam Carolla against the patent trolls? Didn't you use many of Adam's guest to help boost your show? Wasn't your show broadcast out of his studio?
Alison – “Keep being Alison” and you will go far in the entertainment / Show Business industry.
Hopefully your “Alison Brand” is close to your real life “Alison Rosen” because that is less work and stress in the long run and will allow you to rest well at night. Treat everyone in your industry as you would like to be treated and you will go far. (Wow – maybe I need to be a life coach or something! :).
I have followed the Alison/Adam drama of the last few weeks and I can see why Adam made his decision and I can also see the “no-win situation” that your personality (ie your essence) would not let be solved to Adam's satisfaction. This is why, in the end, everything works for a reason and it is what it is.
I am glad Adam gave his “list” publicly – because you can see that he made his decision based on your “Essence” and not your job performance. It was a “vibe” that you were giving off – and I tend to agree with his decision. HOW HE DID IT IS REPREHENSIBLE and shows a low emotional intelligence quotient. But ADAM will be ADAM.
Thank you for “owning” your business – it is called Show Business for a reason. Please keep learning from people in the Internet Show business community and allowing people like me to belong to your virtual podcast family.
ACS has shown people that he has a podcast business but not necessarily a podcast family(ie you do not end family relationships like Adam did with a cold e-mail see: Donny M, Jim Carolla, Pat O'brien, etc.). Nobody pays a Motivational Speaker (Adam's next possible income stream) when you know that you fire “family” with an e-mail. This will hurt Adam's Take a Knee pay for listen business.
Thank you for the forum.
Take Careful.
I now like him and his podcast less. He did a moron thing in a moron way, and is surprised to be called a moron. I'll listen to the show from time to time, but for the guests mostly, and not him or the crew. He could have done this well, and decided not to for his own comfort — looks like that didn't work out.
I will keep listening to you Alison!
Best wishes.
Adam had some valid points. But to criticize you for not being like Robin Quivers, and then to say you didn't create enough original bits, is ridiculous. Quivers never creates original bits. She's always just in the background, except for the news. And, then Howard usually takes over anyway, which is exactly how the ACS show works.
I'm glad you are so mature about this. I myself am having a harder time, lol. I totally understand it is Adam's right to do what he likes with his show. But as someone who listened to him from the beginning (even with real T) I felt like the whole point of the show was that it wasn't the same as radio and that you could do things differently. I supported the pirate ship financially and the whole thing left me with a feeling of, “oh shit, he doesn't get me at all!! this is not what i signed up for!” Then I listened to your last Thur pod and I felt, “Yes! yes, this is what I was looking for emotionally! Nothing rage-y, just taking a minute to process it.” His handling sat with me badly enough that I have not been able to re-subscribe to ACE. I will listen to the 1/12 episode to see what he has to say (I found the David Wild episode to just confirm my feelings above). I just don't like someone who I have invested 5+ yrs listening to daily tell me it is not a big deal. Obviously in the grand scheme of things it is not (esp bc you are going to do great) but it was that sensation of him not understanding what, as a listener, I needed that has put me off.It was surprisingly disappointing, given I don't personally know any of you! But that is the power of the pod, I guess. Anywho, you already are great and are gonna continue to be great and I thank you for meeting my emotional podcasting needs, lol!
hopefully she will appear as a guest to plug with great plugtastic talent what she has to plug.
You are awesome Alison. As is Adam. As Adam says, Movin on!
Prediction: you have no idea what you are talking about and Adam doesn't give the first care in the world if those guys continue to appear on Alison's podcasts. The fact that no additional facts have been provided by Alison is evidence that Adam's version is correct. Either Alison did or did not refuse to contribute to the patent troll litigation – litigation, BTW, that not only directly affected her livelihood but also was being spearheaded by the person giving her career a major platform to develop.
Why is she afraid to say which one it was?
Alison – Thank you for the life help that comes from your podcast.
My example:
I took your personal story about how your Father(15 years on your Mother) and Mother argued in front of you and how that negatively affected you when your were a child and how later as an adult you shut down when people start to shout/argue in your presence (see Adam Rant and Alison shut down because someone is on a tirade – and then Adam confused about lack of “energy” and then termination).
Me and my wife (fifteen years younger) have been arguing in front of my seven year old for the last several years.
After hearing your heartfelt observation, I pulled the earbuds from my ears and had my wife listen to your full on description of your life situation. My wife and I vowed to change our ways and had a talk with our daughter because of your story. I apologized to my wife and my daughter for arguing in front of my daugter.
To keep me from arguing (or at least noting when I am doing it) I bet my daughter that I will owe her 50 cents every time she hears me argue with Mommy. Since my wager – I owe her $2.00. Good times and getting better.
My wife and I thank you (she now listens).
I hope this validates what you do for a living.
Regards and
Take Careful
Fieldengineer
Except that there were reasons when his first statement amounted to him just going with his gut on a whim (not that that would be admirable). Some people want to feel like they are supporting good people. I hated Adam on loveline because he acted like a bully. We want to believe it was an act (the callers were in on the joke) or the reasons (the callers were often jerks) but events like this make us think what we really don’t want to believe- namely that someone’s prodigious talent and motor can give them success despite their shortcomings. But sometimes it bites them in the ass too, and should.
You sure have class Alison!
It sounds like Adam had legitimate complaints. However, that doesn't change the fact that Adam isn't funny anymore and Alison is entertaining.
You took the high road and did Alison’s best, which is being practically perfect in every way.
He came across as a self centered dick because? Sounds like he had 2 or 3 legitimate philosophical differences with someone on his cast, that was all. As I haven't heard her side of the story I only have on half to go on.
I will continue to subscribe to both podcasts. Not everything has to be high drama. I hope everyone on twitter has learned a lesson on class from Alison
Listening to ACS yesterday was uncomfortable. I think AC has a real blind spot when dealing with employees, especially those of a different generation and experience. I think for Alison, if he had said to her/you: “Alison, do you want to be on this team (CDN)? I'm starting to feel like you trying to distance yourself from the network and my brand. Here's what I need for you to do, here are my expectations. If you feel like this kind of team environment isn't a good fit, then let's start planning for a graceful exit.”
I love Adam and his humour. Unfortunately, I think in this decision his ego was more important than what his audience loved, and ultimately as a result his show will take a turn for the worse
Im kind of in the same boat as a lot of people. Just lost interest in the ACS. Allison is only a small reason, but I guess the change alone just didnt sit well.
Is that likely??? I always got the impression that the Alison-Bryan relationship was worse than the Alison-Adam one…
You are a class act.
I’ve always been a huge fan, Alison. But the class and grace you’ve demonstrated during an awkward and difficult time has made me admire you even more. You go, girl! 2015 will be a big year for you, I just know it.
You’re a class act Alison. When I heard the news, I felt like I was kicked in the gut. You and Bald were an equal part of the show’s appeal and I’m not sure I’ll listen to Adam anymore. As a business owner, I know that there are business decisions that need to be made, however, his method of termination was a chicken-shit move and it’s made me question his entire “shtick (sp?)”. I’ve definitely lost a ton of respect for him and have gained a lot of respect for you. You’ve gained a new listener… Keep smilin’….
Wish I got the full story before I talked shit about the ace man. Lot of negative pebbles on the scale against you, Alison.
Breathe In. Breathe Out. Move on.
Great things await you.
You are a class act. Adam was thinking with his “other” head and wanted to see Gina’s big breasts daily. Her annoying laugh is enough to keep me tuned out unless the guest is really someone I want to listen to.
Giovanni gave a possible reason in the Superfan Sidebar:
Adam is missing the point about her never being able to get her subscribers back once she did that, at best it would be a small chunk of change that forever harmed her amazon linking ability/personal finances afterwards, it’s really hard to get people to modify and support that way.
Seems like the issue here is that none of you were consulted before Adam did what he had every right to do. I was surprised at some of Alisons’ refusals to be part of the carolla family but I am certainly not offended that Adam chose not to give me a heads up that he was bothered by those things.
I will continue to listen to the ACS because it is funny and sometimes insightful. Alison, I wish you well and hope your new independence is a positive in the end.
Totally trashy. Can't believe you'd neglect Bald Branson like that. After all you've been through together. jk Good luck Alleysun
Well said, and I would expect nothing less. Looking forward to see what comes next.
He was totally reaching.
So she was a cop the whole time? hmm, I must of missed something.
Seconding pretzelpop's response – my guess is that Alison is more financially constrained than Adam is, and contributing anything to the podcast troll fight would have meant real hardships on her day-to-day spending (let alone wedding and honeymoon expenses).
Alison your the reason I live, your the reason I die, your the reason I live when I break down and cry. I love you!!!!!!!!!! BoBO Bark!
This is definitely unfortunate. However, it is Adam's show and he can do what he wants. It sucks to be fired. :/ I think this is a positive step forward for you, though. I'll never stop listening to your show and I know you'll continue to shine.
Here’s my take (as if anyone cares): I like Adam and think he’s great and I don’t take any offense in his humor and I’m sure I have that in common with most of his fans. I’m a like-minded guy of about the same age so everything he says and the way he says it resonates within me very strongly. All of his references I can relate to, his memories about the 70’s and 80’s are the same as mind and I share almost all of his views and my mind on some others have been changed a couple times by him. I even worked at a McDonald’s when I was a teenager. Anyway, here’s the “problem” I think he was fixing at Alison’s unfortunate expense. Despite Adam’s talent, some walls have been constructed barring him from mainstream entertainment industry circles, or so it seems to me and I would have no way of knowing as I’m a coast away and don’t work in the business. If that is the case, though, perhaps his unparalleled growth in the podcast medium makes him “right’ for a possible seat now at the adult table. I’m thinking that a publicist/PR firm is working to clean him up for bigger things. One of the things that might need cleaning up is his type-casting as the entertainment’s leading misogynist. Let me be clear. I in no way think Adam is an actual misogynist, racist, sexist or any of the words/labels we like to throw around these days. But…Alison’s news sign-off phrase presents a big problem to people outside his fanbase, I’m guessing. I think someone whispered in his ear and told him he had to throw out that dirty bathwater, but how could he do that without taking heat from his fans on the show. I think it’s calculated misdirection to make the news about throwing out the babe (and I mean that Alison – you’re hot) and then nobody notices that it was all about getting rid of the bath water.
Then don't change your link, but instead give your percentage from X to Y date to the legal fund.
Bottom line is Carolla canned Rosen by email while she was on vacation across the country and claimed he only did it because she wanted bad news by email. Yeah right.
Since many of the “reasons” he claims he fired her for were all about him getting his feelings hurt – she didn’t say goodbye to me at the Christmas party, she didn’t invite me to her house, she didn’t ask me about my weekend when I went racing, wah, wah, wah — I think we can assume something happened during xmas break where once again he got his feelings hurt and decided he’d had enough.
Probably she booked her flight, he asked her to work because a “good” sidekick is available 24/7, she said she can’t and so he got his panties in a bunch and fired her in a way that would purposefully ruin her vacation.
If he wants to convince anyone his flunkies aren’t flunkies, let’s hear from the flunky who typed the email firing her.
Don’t listen to Thomas, Alison. Sling thy mud!
The funny thing is unlike Adam, Stern actually setup Robin and made a point of poking fun at her and featuring her soundbites. Adam never did that and his smarmy personality makes anyone sitting next to him uncomfortable.
While I am still a big fan of Adam's, I was surprised at the number of times he referenced Howard and Robin in comparison to the two of you. ADAM IS NOT HOWARD STERN- not even close. To compare the two relationships and level of success was absurd and more than cringe-worthy. If that is what he is looking for, he won't be finding it for quite a long time, if ever. I felt a bit embarrassed for him… Good for you for taking the higher road.
The new music for their news doesn’t even try to be upbeat. As if they are preparing the listen to be unentertained. Unentertained should be a word…
One of you truly did take the high road on this one, and it for sure wasn't the loudmouth that venomously hates all things passion fruit…
What really sucks is you didn’t even get to enjoy a racist twitter rant, offensive on-air comments, or get caught exposing yourself in public. Better luck next firing!
Adam only made one mistake. Not letting you know what was expected of you. Simple.
I don't think that's true. When you interview for a job you are required to already know what the job entails. You shouldn't have to be constantly reminded what your job is and the role you play. Everyday you should ask yourself “Am i performing my duties?” And if that comes into question, it's incumbent upon the person to ask. It's her future, not Adam's…Adam's too busy worrying about his own. Alison is very bright, she knows (or should know) what her role is. For a long while she did it very very well.For 2 – 3 years she was pretty successful but in the past year it was apparent she lost her motivation and was content in Adam being indifferent about her role. She produced less and less and participated even less. If she was blindsided by this, it's because she never bothered to ask about her own future. I say this respectfully as a fan of both Alison and Adam
You wouldn’t contribute to the patent troll through your Amazon links? He was the whole reason that you had a podcast! Please tell me that there is another side to that story….
Why would you not want the Carolla Digital loga on your banner? Did you read Adam’s or Balds book? Is it true you didn’t want to support Adam Carolla against the patent trolls? Didn’t you use many of Adam’s guest to help boost your show? Wasn’t your show broadcast out of his studio?
Alison – “Keep being Alison” and you will go far in the entertainment / Show Business industry.
Hopefully your “Alison Brand” is close to your real life “Alison Rosen” because that is less work and stress in the long run and will allow you to rest well at night. Treat everyone in your industry as you would like to be treated and you will go far. (Wow – maybe I need to be a life coach or something! :).
I have followed the Alison/Adam drama of the last few weeks and I can see why Adam made his decision and I can also see the “no-win situation” that your personality (ie your essence) would not let be solved to Adam’s satisfaction. This is why, in the end, everything works for a reason and it is what it is.
I am glad Adam gave his “list” publicly – because you can see that he made his decision based on your “Essence” and not your job performance. It was a “vibe” that you were giving off – and I tend to agree with his decision. HOW HE DID IT IS REPREHENSIBLE and shows a low emotional intelligence quotient. But ADAM will be ADAM.
Thank you for “owning” your business – it is called Show Business for a reason. Please keep learning from people in the Internet Show business community and allowing people like me to belong to your virtual podcast family.
ACS has shown people that he has a podcast business but not necessarily a podcast family(ie you do not end family relationships like Adam did with a cold e-mail see: Donny M, Jim Carolla, Pat O’brien, etc.). Nobody pays a Motivational Speaker (Adam’s next possible income stream) when you know that you fire “family” with an e-mail. This will hurt Adam’s Take a Knee pay for listen business.
Thank you for the forum.
Take Careful.
I now like him and his podcast less. He did a moron thing in a moron way, and is surprised to be called a moron. I’ll listen to the show from time to time, but for the guests mostly, and not him or the crew. He could have done this well, and decided not to for his own comfort — looks like that didn’t work out.
I will keep listening to you Alison!
Best wishes.
Adam had some valid points. But to criticize you for not being like Robin Quivers, and then to say you didn’t create enough original bits, is ridiculous. Quivers never creates original bits. She’s always just in the background, except for the news. And, then Howard usually takes over anyway, which is exactly how the ACS show works.
Jesus H Christ, I've started listening to the Ant episode and he starts off with “it was my wish…” Why can't we just say “narcissism” so I don't have to listen to any more. Isn't that the most positive thing to say that is also truth?
Why does someone who has the talent for an independent career have to choose a “with me or against me” line? I know, because of who we are talking about. But that's the point. Do other successful people require such a subjugation? And when they do, don't we dislike that about them? Did Alison ever throw anyone under the bus, or did she just attempt to do her best juggling act? Didn't Alison “contribute” to the cause by bringing her A-game every day?
I’m glad you are so mature about this. I myself am having a harder time, lol. I totally understand it is Adam’s right to do what he likes with his show. But as someone who listened to him from the beginning (even with real T) I felt like the whole point of the show was that it wasn’t the same as radio and that you could do things differently. I supported the pirate ship financially and the whole thing left me with a feeling of, “oh shit, he doesn’t get me at all!! this is not what i signed up for!” Then I listened to your last Thur pod and I felt, “Yes! yes, this is what I was looking for emotionally! Nothing rage-y, just taking a minute to process it.” His handling sat with me badly enough that I have not been able to re-subscribe to ACE. I will listen to the 1/12 episode to see what he has to say (I found the David Wild episode to just confirm my feelings above). I just don’t like someone who I have invested 5+ yrs listening to daily tell me it is not a big deal. Obviously in the grand scheme of things it is not (esp bc you are going to do great) but it was that sensation of him not understanding what, as a listener, I needed that has put me off.It was surprisingly disappointing, given I don’t personally know any of you! But that is the power of the pod, I guess. Anywho, you already are great and are gonna continue to be great and I thank you for meeting my emotional podcasting needs, lol!
too bad its her fans causing all the nonsense.
Prediction: you have no idea what you are talking about and Adam doesn’t give the first care in the world if those guys continue to appear on Alison’s podcasts. The fact that no additional facts have been provided by Alison is evidence that Adam’s version is correct. Either Alison did or did not refuse to contribute to the patent troll litigation – litigation, BTW, that not only directly affected her livelihood but also was being spearheaded by the person giving her career a major platform to develop.
Why is she afraid to say which one it was?
Alison – Thank you for the life help that comes from your podcast.
My example:
I took your personal story about how your Father(15 years on your Mother) and Mother argued in front of you and how that negatively affected you when your were a child and how later as an adult you shut down when people start to shout/argue in your presence (see Adam Rant and Alison shut down because someone is on a tirade – and then Adam confused about lack of “energy” and then termination).
Me and my wife (fifteen years younger) have been arguing in front of my seven year old for the last several years.
After hearing your heartfelt observation, I pulled the earbuds from my ears and had my wife listen to your full on description of your life situation. My wife and I vowed to change our ways and had a talk with our daughter because of your story. I apologized to my wife and my daughter for arguing in front of my daugter.
To keep me from arguing (or at least noting when I am doing it) I bet my daughter that I will owe her 50 cents every time she hears me argue with Mommy. Since my wager – I owe her $2.00. Good times and getting better.
My wife and I thank you (she now listens).
I hope this validates what you do for a living.
Regards and
Take Careful
Fieldengineer
Okay, due to some comments here I listened to the Anthony Cumia episode. Hopefully I can save some of you some time. Pretty lame. Lots of handwaving and exaggeration and speculation (admitted) and hearsay. First off, has anyone ever heard Robin Quivers say anything funny? I know some people might say “it isn't about being funny” but those people are being stupid. Somehow it seems you are to hear 90 minutes times 5 times per week of rambling but tune in like a laser beam (I know, the physics analogy doesn't work out) when he makes an offhand comment about how he is instinctively feeling about how he assumes you are feeling. I suspect you were worried about stepping on his “yes ands.” You can't read his mind. Probably a good thing. I happen to agree with Adam politically, I guess, but for Chrissakes, you live in California. Why does he think that the person who is doing their best to stay close to him is trying to distance herself? Blame the assholes who are ACTUALLY distancing themselves from him.
You sure have class Alison!
It sounds like Adam had legitimate complaints. However, that doesn’t change the fact that Adam isn’t funny anymore and Alison is entertaining.
He came across as a self centered dick because? Sounds like he had 2 or 3 legitimate philosophical differences with someone on his cast, that was all. As I haven’t heard her side of the story I only have on half to go on.
(Feel free not publish my comments)
Okay, patent trolls. This is the only one stings a bit. But I bet it is explained AGAIN by him being privately wounded and expecting you to understand, for example, why the guy who can afford to take up such a crusade would be upset with someone who doesn't benefit as much from such a crusade not helping their crusade. Yeah, I get the part where he thinks his crusade is for everyone's benefit, and in this case he is right! Then he just lets it go (even saying he said not to worry about it) while quietly holding a grudge and never revealing that it signals a problem, even saying it's no big deal and presumably never revisiting the fact that it is a REALLY big deal to him. It is also funny how after the “bug on the logo” he takes you wanted to be associated with his movie as ironic but not as a reason for him to wonder if he really fully understood your feelings. After listening to it all, it just says what we already knew. Narcissism. “When I'm talking I'm filling time because you aren't talking, except when I'm not. See you next show.” Y'all honkies is crazy.
Google the “Askers versus Guessers” blog post. Everything should re-read that once per year.
http://ask.metafilter.com/5515…
Listening to ACS yesterday was uncomfortable. I think AC has a real blind spot when dealing with employees, especially those of a different generation and experience. I think for Alison, if he had said to her/you: “Alison, do you want to be on this team (CDN)? I’m starting to feel like you’re trying to distance yourself from the network and my brand. Here’s what I need for you to do, here are my expectations. If you feel like this kind of team environment isn’t a good fit, then let’s start planning for a graceful exit.”
You're definitely the mature and intelligent one in the bunch. The show is lacking without you. I'm getting tired of Gina's “morning show-laugh-hysterically-at everything Adam says” personality and miss the intelligence you brought.
Didn't Adam use his many connections he made on his days at KROQ to boost HIS later endeavors?
Good lord. On second thought, you can't even really blame the people Alison was worried wouldn't come on her podcast because of association with Adam. I do breast cancer research and I had to withstand a grilling from a bunch of liberal professors because a laughably small amount of funding came from the Department of Defense. Everyone is paranoid. It's not on Alison. It's not even just Hollywood.
I don't think your not far off – but he wanted to start fresh and somehow “jump start” his podcast and let his employees know that no one is guaranteed employment.
Is that likely??? I always got the impression that the Alison-Bryan relationship was worse than the Alison-Adam one…
You are a class act.
Wish I got the full story before I talked shit about the ace man. Lot of negative pebbles on the scale against you, Alison.
Well said. Wishing you all the best!!!
Breathe In. Breathe Out. Move on.
Great things await you.
Giovanni gave a possible reason in the Superfan Sidebar:
Adam is missing the point about her never being able to get her subscribers back once she did that, at best it would be a small chunk of change that forever harmed her amazon linking ability/personal finances afterwards, it’s really hard to get people to modify and support that way.
Thank you Alison! This is exactly what I was hoping you would say. The he said-she said might have brought in some temporary listeners, but I can't imagine that's what you wanted your show to be about. Stay true to you! Lots of Love!
Well said. Why I love you and your work.
Totally trashy. Can’t believe you’d neglect Bald Branson like that. After all you’ve been through together. jk Good luck Alleysun
So she was a cop the whole time? hmm, I must of missed something.
Seconding pretzelpop’s response – my guess is that Alison is more financially constrained than Adam is, and contributing anything to the podcast troll fight would have meant real hardships on her day-to-day spending (let alone wedding and honeymoon expenses).
Alison your the reason I live, your the reason I die, your the reason I live when I break down and cry. I love you!!!!!!!!!! BoBO Bark!
This is definitely unfortunate. However, it is Adam’s show and he can do what he wants. It sucks to be fired. :/ I think this is a positive step forward for you, though. I’ll never stop listening to your show and I know you’ll continue to shine.
Then don’t change your link, but instead give your percentage from X to Y date to the legal fund.
The funny thing is unlike Adam, Stern actually setup Robin and made a point of poking fun at her and featuring her soundbites. Adam never did that and his smarmy personality makes anyone sitting next to him uncomfortable.
While I am still a big fan of Adam’s, I was surprised at the number of times he referenced Howard and Robin in comparison to the two of you. ADAM IS NOT HOWARD STERN- not even close. To compare the two relationships and level of success was absurd and more than cringe-worthy. If that is what he is looking for, he won’t be finding it for quite a long time, if ever. I felt a bit embarrassed for him… Good for you for taking the higher road.
One of you truly did take the high road on this one, and it for sure wasn’t the loudmouth that venomously hates all things passion fruit…
It is the fans who are being a**holes. Adam and Alison are both great talents and I will continue to be a fan of both. I am glad you were on Adam's show. It brought you into my life.
Sincere and Heartfelt. Thank you Alison Rosen.
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I don’t think that’s true. When you interview for a job you are required to already know what the job entails. You shouldn’t have to be constantly reminded what your job is and the role you play. Everyday you should ask yourself “Am i performing my duties?” And if that comes into question, it’s incumbent upon the person to ask. It’s her future, not Adam’s…Adam’s too busy worrying about his own. Alison is very bright, she knows (or should know) what her role is. For a long while she did it very very well.For 2 – 3 years she was pretty successful but in the past year it was apparent she lost her motivation and was content in Adam being indifferent about her role. She produced less and less and participated even less. If she was blindsided by this, it’s because she never bothered to ask about her own future. I say this respectfully as a fan of both Alison and Adam
Jesus H Christ, I’ve started listening to the Ant episode and he starts off with “it was my wish…” Why can’t we just say “narcissism” so I don’t have to listen to any more. Isn’t that the most positive thing to say that is also truth?
Why does someone who has the talent for an independent career have to choose a “with me or against me” line? I know, because of who we are talking about. But that’s the point. Do other successful people require such a subjugation? And when they do, don’t we dislike that about them? Did Alison ever throw anyone under the bus, or did she just attempt to do her best juggling act? Didn’t Alison “contribute” to the cause by bringing her A-game every day?
a real boss would do this , “Alison , can I see you in my office , Close the door behind you . have a seat please, you brought your dog on an airplane , I'm going to have to let you go ” .
Hey Jesus Vasquez, is the spelling police on patrol here? Get a life won’t ya…
Whether this experience launches you in a great new direction or grinds you into addiction and porn – I will remain a fan. As such, I will pray mostly for the former. If it goes the other way I'm sure “The Cracks of Life” will be a big hit.
Okay, due to some comments here I listened to the Anthony Cumia episode. Hopefully I can save some of you some time. Pretty lame. Lots of handwaving and exaggeration and speculation (admitted) and hearsay. First off, has anyone ever heard Robin Quivers say anything funny? I know some people might say “it isn’t about being funny” but those people are being stupid. Somehow it seems you are to hear 90 minutes times 5 times per week of rambling but tune in like a laser beam (I know, the physics analogy doesn’t work out) when he makes an offhand comment about how he is instinctively feeling about how he assumes you are feeling. I suspect you were worried about stepping on his “yes ands.” You can’t read his mind. Probably a good thing. I happen to agree with Adam politically, I guess, but for Chrissakes, you live in California. Why does he think that the person who is doing their best to stay close to him is trying to distance herself? Blame the assholes who are ACTUALLY distancing themselves from him.
Great response. Just move on. When in doubt do not escalate.
(Feel free not publish my comments)
Okay, patent trolls. This is the only one stings a bit. But I bet it is explained AGAIN by him being privately wounded and expecting you to understand, for example, why the guy who can afford to take up such a crusade would be upset with someone who doesn’t benefit as much from such a crusade not helping their crusade. Yeah, I get the part where he thinks his crusade is for everyone’s benefit, and in this case he is right! Then he just lets it go (even saying he said not to worry about it) while quietly holding a grudge and never revealing that it signals a problem, even saying it’s no big deal and presumably never revisiting the fact that it is a REALLY big deal to him. It is also funny how after the “bug on the logo” he takes you wanted to be associated with his movie as ironic but not as a reason for him to wonder if he really fully understood your feelings. After listening to it all, it just says what we already knew. Narcissism. “When I’m talking I’m filling time because you aren’t talking, except when I’m not. See you next show.” Y’all honkies is crazy.
Alison you are cute funny and kind. If you weren't married and living on the other side of the country I'd ask ya out for a coffee. I like Adam, but Christ, if i had to listen to his incessant and repetitive rants over and over I'd have trouble feigning interest as well. Seems like what he wants is someone to agree with everything he says. Which is not interesting to listen to. Not to mention the constant mentions of projects he did ten or more years ago, or so called relationships with celebrities.
Google the “Askers versus Guessers” blog post. Everything should re-read that once per year.
http://ask.metafilter.com/55153/Whats-the-middle-ground-between-FU-and-Welcome#830421
You’re definitely the mature and intelligent one in the bunch. The show is lacking without you. I’m getting tired of Gina’s “morning show-laugh-hysterically-at everything Adam says” personality and miss the intelligence you brought.
Listened to your podcast episode with Christina Pazsitzky, That’s Deep Bro, and it just further affirmed the class act you are. At the end of the day it is all a lesson in communication and being redirected to something better (to reference Steve Maraboli about rejection). Be you, do you, and here is to more Alison Rosen! Big hugs to you
Didn’t Adam use his many connections he made on his days at KROQ to boost HIS later endeavors?
Good lord. On second thought, you can’t even really blame the people Alison was worried wouldn’t come on her podcast because of association with Adam. I do breast cancer research and I had to withstand a grilling from a bunch of liberal professors because a laughably small amount of funding came from the Department of Defense. Everyone is paranoid. It’s not on Alison. It’s not even just Hollywood.
I suspect a major reason for the change was that downloads (ratings) were down and some kind of change had to be made in an effort to increase numbers. If numbers were continuously increasing, I suspect we'd still be hearing Alison on ACS. As Alison said, this is a business.
I don’t think your not far off – but he wanted to start fresh and somehow “jump start” his podcast and let his employees know that no one is guaranteed employment.
Well said. Wishing you all the best!!!
I'm glad Adam cleared up some of the things that were happening behind the scenes, which did not make Alison look like a team player or as someone who had the show's best interests in mind.
Thank you Alison! This is exactly what I was hoping you would say. The he said-she said might have brought in some temporary listeners, but I can’t imagine that’s what you wanted your show to be about. Stay true to you! Lots of Love!
Well said. Why I love you and your work.
Why are you no longer with the Carolla podcast family? He take that away as well?
For all the times Adam said he cared for you, he did a narcissistic job in explaining his reasoning. I've been a loyal Carolla fan for years. This is the ultimate bummer. You were perfect.
LOVE YOU!!!! I'll keep listening to ARIYNBF, because I love you
While it is sad to see Alison not on the show, this is best for her in the long run. Despite what he says to the contrary, Adam seems to need people who worship him. Adam lives in a world where his opinion is the only one that is valid so no one would ever measure up, especially a woman. Alison's and anyone else's voice around him is extremely diminished with his overbearing personality. If Adam wants to cry about Alison not wanting to hang around him socially post show, maybe he needs to look in the mirror and ask himself why? Maybe it's because he is not a likable person. The fact that he had the audacity to ask the fans to pay for his legal bills was when the show jumped the shark. Asking staff to chip in too is ridiculous and unfair especially since Adam who boasts about his wealth should realize not everyone has the same paycheck. Perhaps he can sell one of his many cars to pay for his OWN BILL. Anyway, I wouldn't want to be associated with someone that greedy and narcissistic. Now Alison can have a full voice and not have to cower under Adam's enormous ego. Thankfully he has Brian there to continue wiping his butt and bask in Adam's “superior” glow.
I think you mean “controversy that's a.rosen”
It is the fans who are being a**holes. Adam and Alison are both great talents and I will continue to be a fan of both. I am glad you were on Adam’s show. It brought you into my life.
Sincere and Heartfelt. Thank you Alison Rosen.
I was a big fan of Adam's until about mid-2013, where he started becoming a crazy person. His podcast has been in decline since then and I was holding out for the lawsuits to finish so he could focus on refining his rants and, generally, getting good at comedy again. (Listen to the recently posted Ace Awards from 2010 to 2014 if you want a compressed version of the decline).
This whole incident is not only depressing, but extremely baffling. It is a more extreme version of him firing his pool guy after not communicating what was expected of him. What he has done is petty, cowardly, stupid, and antithetical to what he has preached for years. He IS crazy now. He hath become Jack Silver.
I want to make it clear, too, that I am not angry at Adam for exercising his right to run his podcast. He has to understand that we don't want to FORCE Rosen on his podcast against his will. We question his wisdom of firing her in a more reactive sense. Insisting that it wasn't personal and then admitting that it was personal after all doesn't reflect well on him, and tactically speaking, unceremoniously firing somebody will not increase your ratings (but, as we've seen, increased hers). Besides, if you want to fire somebody to make your podcast better, how about fire the unfunny wet-mouthed piece of human garbage Bryan Bishop, or the incompetent engineer Gary Smith. Better yet, look in a fucking mirror and take some personal responsibility. Be funnier, prick.
“Thankfully he has Bryan there to continue wiping his butt”
It is worth noting that Bryan's show is also no longer on Adam's network. I'm talking about The Film Vault at http://andersonandbryan.com/
I can't wait for you to interview Adam on your show in 2015!
I just listened to Adam's “explanation cast,” and the one takeaway I got from it was “Everyone who works for me–especially good looking chicks–needs to lick my anus, or you're fired. Oh and by the way, I've never treated anyone badly evhur.”
Adam may be my spirit-father, but he made a big mistake. The people who work for him will call the now closed era “The Alison Maximum” for ratings and revenue.
a real boss would do this , “Alison , can I see you in my office , Close the door behind you . have a seat please, you brought your dog on an airplane , I’m going to have to let you go ” .
I think multiple things are going on, including a little jealousy on Adam's part. I think he expected someone to pick up his movie quicker and it can't be healthy to have Jimmy Kimmel making so much more money than he is. ACS is always had too much Adam and never enough of his guests except for the guests that arn't very entertaining like Koi.
Whether this experience launches you in a great new direction or grinds you into addiction and porn – I will remain a fan. As such, I will pray mostly for the former. If it goes the other way I’m sure “The Cracks of Life” will be a big hit.
Great response. Just move on. When in doubt do not escalate.
I think Adam had a busy year, he was tired. sometimes he wanted Alison to step up to the plate and give a bit more, but she was too comfortable on her stool. the big boots were uncomfortable to stand in for long. she was putting her energy into her podcast, while using her position to siphon off the odd guest from Adams show. making connections.using his studio to run her podcast, using his show to plug hers. doubling up on his sponsors. hulu. naturebox. blue apron. she didn't do it maliciously, but she is also narcissistic in her own way. shes an attention seeker. she loves a pity party. she wallows. she glows. she empathises. I'm your best friend she says. she smiles. I have a paypal if you want to give she says, while eating from her graze box.
she chose not to contribute to patent troll fight though many others of us did. even though she was given a great job by Adam. he gave her a studio. a voice. support. a platform.
she'll take the high road. play her best cards. be demure. play the wounded animal. he'll look like a prick.
Adam can let things slide, until the dam bursts and then you are gone. hes a caveman. he's a man. he cant understand the wet people screaming at him. he thinks he gave her a job, paid her way, skyrocketed her career, he thinks that's enough. why are they angry? he says. why do they question me?. wheres the faith?. the podcast was free! he throws the rattle from his pram. he sulks. his knuckles drag as he grumbles away. can I have money for my next film he asks?
she rides high on the pity wave. look at me. look at me. im the bigger man she says. look at my spotlight now, how brightly it glows. I love Adam, I wish everyone the best, im the podcast fairy from gumdrop village. kiss. kiss. I love you! I'm playing the long game.I cant believe all this!, she flutters.
he'll move on for a bit, i'm over it, he'll say. I wish her all the best.
… then it will resurface. he'll get bitter. he'll think of new things. build a case and a grudge. its a fight now. its Leonard V Duran. Lady Macbeth is urging him on. that iTunes belt is yours honey. she stole it! ill get you my pretty!, Lynette screeches.
….Alison also plans as she slowly straightens her hair. whats my next move? she thinks. like a chess grandmaster she thinks 5 moves ahead. she has time on her hands, shes younger. time passes. she has a child, hes a natural warrior. she trains him. fuels him. moulds him. teaches him ethics. French poetry. the correct way to sack someone. feeds him. slowly giving him purpose…..
meanwhile Adam cant straighten his hair. its too short. its curly. I cant do a thing with it. just cut it. he plans. strategises. watches old WWII footage. he senses something is on the horizon. but he doesn't know what. he uses his fans to invest in Gundam suit technology. he builds a robot the size of his ego. the Adam1. he'll use it to crush Rosen when the time comes. but he cant pilot it himself, hes getting old-theres a little off his fastball. he cant look to Sonny-he's a puss. but Natalia! shes a jaguar rolled up in vipers rolled up in barbed wire. she will pilot the Adam1.
Son of Rosen has grown. hes a man now. he meditates daily on glorious death. he will meet the Adam1 on the battlefield.
Natalia is now at one with her fathers robotic ego. she has learned to control her rage. to channel her anger. she pilots the Adam1. she will meet Son of Rosen on the battlefield.
the day comes. the offspring meet….. but the picture they had of each other is not the monster their parents had painted. he sees a vulnerable lioness wrapped in her fathers metallic ego. she sees a hottie, blessed with the Rosen bone structure, good teeth and gentle humanity. hes a good listener also, but she doesn't know that yet.
they fall in love. they are the ying to each others yangs. they are complete. happy.
Mother Rosen is enraged. her plans askew, she retreats.
Adam is old now. the fight is gone. he's a bit punchy and dribbles a lot. his stories loop and wend interminably from airport to hotel room to passionfruit and back again with no beginning or end. the once great mind has withered. the prizefighter, once able to inspire crowds, struggles to find form to his thoughts. His ranting heart, once capable of inspiring others so completely, can no longer inspire so much as itself. It beats now only out of habit. it beats. it beats. it stops. the king is dead.
from the shadows young Sonny approaches his father. hes a good boy. he kneels at his fathers side. he weeps. something inside him lights. a fire dormant since birth has awakened. Sonny shaves his fathers unibrow and swallows it over, so that a little part of his father will never leave him, but will nestle within every crevice of his colon and intestine. their DNA mingling forever in the dank dark reaches of his gut, he will honour his father. he will take up the mike. he. will. rant…..
tune in next week for more Galactic Podcast Dynasty War Throne Windbags.
Alison you are cute funny and kind. If you weren’t married and living on the other side of the country I’d ask ya out for a coffee. I like Adam, but Christ, if i had to listen to his incessant and repetitive rants over and over I’d have trouble feigning interest as well. Seems like what he wants is someone to agree with everything he says. Which is not interesting to listen to. Not to mention the constant mentions of projects he did ten or more years ago, or so called relationships with celebrities.
I suspect a major reason for the change was that downloads (ratings) were down and some kind of change had to be made in an effort to increase numbers. If numbers were continuously increasing, I suspect we’d still be hearing Alison on ACS. As Alison said, this is a business.
I think a lot of this could be cleared up with some communication. There seems to a breakdown of it on both sides. Even if you shouldn't be partners, it doesn't need to end like this. I hope you write him a private email, if you haven't already, giving your side of the one sided conversation that everyone heard on Monday. It should have been a private conversation months if not years ago. Maybe say he can share it on air if he chooses. Give him the courtesy that he didn't give you. This will increase your class level to over 9000.
Handled with class and dignity. Going to miss hearing you on the show Alison. Good luck with everything
You are a classy person Alison, your style, wit and evil quick improv chops will be missed every show have made me a fan forever. I can't wait to see what the future brings and while I will still listen to everything you do.
I’m glad Adam cleared up some of the things that were happening behind the scenes, which did not make Alison look like a team player or as someone who had the show’s best interests in mind.
Actually, poor decision making caused all this nonsense. Who couldn’t foresee fans wanting answers to something so abrupt? If the firing was handled appropriately, Alison could have talked down the outrage of her fans. She could have provided the answers instead of Adam.
I like Alison and think she is very funny but Adam did raise some very valid points during his explanation such as Alison not wanting to run the Carolla digital bug on her banner or contributing to the patent trolls. A huge amount of Alison's guests and listeners have come from her time on the ACS so I can understand Adams position.
Alison, you're way too kind regarding Adam. You were fired by a guy who has “mommy issues”.
Why are you no longer with the Carolla podcast family? He take that away as well?
For all the times Adam said he cared for you, he did a narcissistic job in explaining his reasoning. I’ve been a loyal Carolla fan for years. This is the ultimate bummer. You were perfect.
LOVE YOU!!!! I’ll keep listening to ARIYNBF, because I love you
While it is sad to see Alison not on the show, this is best for her in the long run. Despite what he says to the contrary, Adam seems to need people who worship him. Adam lives in a world where his opinion is the only one that is valid so no one would ever measure up, especially a woman. Alison’s and anyone else’s voice around him is extremely diminished with his overbearing personality. If Adam wants to cry about Alison not wanting to hang around him socially post show, maybe he needs to look in the mirror and ask himself why? Maybe it’s because he is not a likable person. The fact that he had the audacity to ask the fans to pay for his legal bills was when the show jumped the shark. Asking staff to chip in too is ridiculous and unfair especially since Adam who boasts about his wealth should realize not everyone has the same paycheck. Perhaps he can sell one of his many cars to pay for his OWN BILL. Anyway, I wouldn’t want to be associated with someone that greedy and narcissistic. Now Alison can have a full voice and not have to cower under Adam’s enormous ego. Thankfully he has Brian there to continue wiping his butt and bask in Adam’s “superior” glow.
I think you mean “controversy that’s a.rosen”
I was a big fan of Adam’s until about mid-2013, where he started becoming a crazy person. His podcast has been in decline since then and I was holding out for the lawsuits to finish so he could focus on refining his rants and, generally, getting good at comedy again. (Listen to the recently posted Ace Awards from 2010 to 2014 if you want a compressed version of the decline).
This whole incident is not only depressing, but extremely baffling. It is a more extreme version of him firing his pool guy after not communicating what was expected of him. What he has done is petty, cowardly, stupid, and antithetical to what he has preached for years. He IS crazy now. He hath become Jack Silver.
I want to make it clear, too, that I am not angry at Adam for exercising his right to run his podcast. He has to understand that we don’t want to FORCE Rosen on his podcast against his will. We question his wisdom of firing her in a more reactive sense. Insisting that it wasn’t personal and then admitting that it was personal after all doesn’t reflect well on him, and tactically speaking, unceremoniously firing somebody will not increase your ratings (but, as we’ve seen, increased hers). Besides, if you want to fire somebody to make your podcast better, how about fire the unfunny wet-mouthed piece of human garbage Bryan Bishop, or the incompetent engineer Gary Smith. Better yet, look in a fucking mirror and take some personal responsibility. Be funnier, prick.
“Thankfully he has Bryan there to continue wiping his butt”
It is worth noting that Bryan’s show is also no longer on Adam’s network. I’m talking about The Film Vault at http://andersonandbryan.com/
I can’t wait for you to interview Adam on your show in 2015!
I just listened to Adam’s “explanation cast,” and the one takeaway I got from it was “Everyone who works for me–especially good looking chicks–needs to lick my anus, or you’re fired. Oh and by the way, I’ve never treated anyone badly evhur.”
Adam may be my spirit-father, but he made a big mistake. The people who work for him will call the now closed era “The Alison Maximum” for ratings and revenue.
Apparently I'm the only one who totally agrees with Adam. Alison was totally uninterested in adding creatively to ACS.
I think multiple things are going on, including a little jealousy on Adam’s part. I think he expected someone to pick up his movie quicker and it can’t be healthy to have Jimmy Kimmel making so much more money than he is. ACS is always had too much Adam and never enough of his guests except for the guests that arn’t very entertaining like Koi.
Enjoyed you on ACS and look forward to listening. To what you do in the future. Best of luck
I think Adam had a busy year, he was tired. sometimes he wanted Alison to step up to the plate and give a bit more, but she was too comfortable on her stool. the big boots were uncomfortable to stand in for long. she was putting her energy into her podcast, while using her position to siphon off the odd guest from Adams show. making connections.using his studio to run her podcast, using his show to plug hers. doubling up on his sponsors. hulu. naturebox. blue apron. she didn’t do it maliciously, but she is also narcissistic in her own way. shes an attention seeker. she loves a pity party. she wallows. she glows. she empathises. I’m your best friend she says. she smiles. I have a paypal if you want to give she says, while eating from her graze box.
she chose not to contribute to patent troll fight though many others of us did. even though she was given a great job by Adam. he gave her a studio. a voice. support. a platform.
she’ll take the high road. play her best cards. be demure. play the wounded animal. he’ll look like a prick.
Adam can let things slide, until the dam bursts and then you are gone. hes a caveman. he’s a man. he cant understand the wet people screaming at him. he thinks he gave her a job, paid her way, skyrocketed her career, he thinks that’s enough. why are they angry? he says. why do they question me?. wheres the faith?. the podcast was free! he throws the rattle from his pram. he sulks. his knuckles drag as he grumbles away. can I have money for my next film he asks?
she rides high on the pity wave. look at me. look at me. im the bigger man she says. look at my spotlight now, how brightly it glows. I love Adam, I wish everyone the best, im the podcast fairy from gumdrop village. kiss. kiss. I love you! I’m playing the long game.I cant believe all this!, she flutters.
he’ll move on for a bit, i’m over it, he’ll say. I wish her all the best.
… then it will resurface. he’ll get bitter. he’ll think of new things. build a case and a grudge. its a fight now. its Leonard V Duran. Lady Macbeth is urging him on. that iTunes belt is yours honey. she stole it! ill get you my pretty!, Lynette screeches.
….Alison also plans as she slowly straightens her hair. whats my next move? she thinks. like a chess grandmaster she thinks 5 moves ahead. she has time on her hands, shes younger. time passes. she has a child, hes a natural warrior. she trains him. fuels him. moulds him. teaches him ethics. French poetry. the correct way to sack someone. feeds him. slowly giving him purpose…..
meanwhile Adam cant straighten his hair. its too short. its curly. I cant do a thing with it. just cut it. he plans. strategises. watches old WWII footage. he senses something is on the horizon. but he doesn’t know what. he uses his fans to invest in Gundam suit technology. he builds a robot the size of his ego. the Adam1. he’ll use it to crush Rosen when the time comes. but he cant pilot it himself, hes getting old-theres a little off his fastball. he cant look to Sonny-he’s a puss. but Natalia! shes a jaguar rolled up in vipers rolled up in barbed wire. she will pilot the Adam1.
Son of Rosen has grown. hes a man now. he meditates daily on glorious death. he will meet the Adam1 on the battlefield.
Natalia is now at one with her fathers robotic ego. she has learned to control her rage. to channel her anger. she pilots the Adam1. she will meet Son of Rosen on the battlefield.
the day comes. the offspring meet….. but the picture they had of each other is not the monster their parents had painted. he sees a vulnerable lioness wrapped in her fathers metallic ego. she sees a hottie, blessed with the Rosen bone structure, good teeth and gentle humanity. hes a good listener also, but she doesn’t know that yet.
they fall in love. they are the ying to each others yangs. they are complete. happy.
Mother Rosen is enraged. her plans askew, she retreats.
Adam is old now. the fight is gone. he’s a bit punchy and dribbles a lot. his stories loop and wend interminably from airport to hotel room to passionfruit and back again with no beginning or end. the once great mind has withered. the prizefighter, once able to inspire crowds, struggles to find form to his thoughts. His ranting heart, once capable of inspiring others so completely, can no longer inspire so much as itself. It beats now only out of habit. it beats. it beats. it stops. the king is dead.
from the shadows young Sonny approaches his father. hes a good boy. he kneels at his fathers side. he weeps. something inside him lights. a fire dormant since birth has awakened. Sonny shaves his fathers unibrow and swallows it over, so that a little part of his father will never leave him, but will nestle within every crevice of his colon and intestine. their DNA mingling forever in the dank dark reaches of his gut, he will honour his father. he will take up the mike. he. will. rant…..
tune in next week for more Galactic Podcast Dynasty War Throne Windbags.
Also, when Adam begs you to come back, be sure to pull the power move and refuse.
I think it’s always done abruptly, unless the departure can be made mutual.
If he gave 6 months notice like is given to a professor who doesn’t make tenure, then it would be 6 months of awkward podcasts.
“zip it cunt” replaced with “hack with a rack”. Perceived sexism < Perceived misogyny. After Gina serves her interim purpose the next one will be Latina or black. Perceived tokenism < Perceived sexism. That should lead in just right for a Hillary/Adam ticket in 2016;-)
I think a lot of this could be cleared up with some communication. There seems to a breakdown of it on both sides. Even if you shouldn’t be partners, it doesn’t need to end like this. I hope you write him a private email, if you haven’t already, giving your side of the one sided conversation that everyone heard on Monday. It should have been a private conversation months if not years ago. Maybe say he can share it on air if he chooses. Give him the courtesy that he didn’t give you. This will increase your class level to over 9000.
Handled with class and dignity. Going to miss hearing you on the show Alison. Good luck with everything
#EscapeBoat
Adam sounded like a bafoon on his explanation of A.R. release. BTW, why should Alison have to have any advertisement of the ACS on her banner? That is her Pod. Granted it is on Corolla Digital, however it is it's own entity? Corolla was trying to advertise of her work?
You are a classy person Alison, your style, wit and evil quick improv chops will be missed every show have made me a fan forever. I can’t wait to see what the future brings and while I will still listen to everything you do.
I like Alison and think she is very funny but Adam did raise some very valid points during his explanation such as Alison not wanting to run the Carolla digital bug on her banner or contributing to the patent trolls. A huge amount of Alison’s guests and listeners have come from her time on the ACS so I can understand Adams position.
Alison, you’re way too kind regarding Adam. You were fired by a guy who has “mommy issues”.
Whether she did a good job or not – an employee must have an expectation from management of their responsibilities. That's just basic management 101. She clearly didn't do what he wanted her to, however, maybe she would have if she knew the expectation. Who knows?
who the fuck are you?! you amazing, crazy bitch
can't wait for next week!
Apparently I’m the only one who totally agrees with Adam. Alison was totally uninterested in adding creatively to ACS.
Enjoyed you on ACS and look forward to listening. To what you do in the future. Best of luck
Spell much?
Then mount your unicorn and gallop away over a glittery rainbow.
How dull must your senses be to find Jo Lot not funny?
Also, when Adam begs you to come back, be sure to pull the power move and refuse.
Adam made some interesting points, but it all comes down to, in my opinion, bad communication on Adam's part. I can see his side of things based what he said about it on the Jan 12th podcast. But what really got me was the part about Alison participating in the patent trolls. I mean, I don't know Alison's take on the story, but it seems that she was just protecting herself and her profits. I mean, Adam brought up that people like Penn Jillet and Dr Drew contributed, but these are freakin millionaires! Of course they can give up a tiny bit of their income, but seriously, Alison shouldn't even have been asked to pitch it along with these rich dudes. I mean, I love Adam, but fuck that. Time to move on, sure Thursday's ARIYNBF will be the last we hear about this. Time to move on.
to be fair, Alison and Gina came up with their sign off's themselves
“zip it cunt” replaced with “hack with a rack”. Perceived sexism < Perceived misogyny. After Gina serves her interim purpose the next one will be Latina or black. Perceived tokenism < Perceived sexism. That should lead in just right for a Hillary/Adam ticket in 2016;-)
I mostly agree with your view, but making her give her profits to the patent trolls along side rich guys like Dr Drew, Marc Maron, Penn Jillet, all the guys that contributed that Adam mentioned…ridiculous. I understand that if maybe if it was just that, but along with the banner thing, maybe that all added up but the patent troll thing alone I can't fault her. I'm glad she spoke up strongly about that, as Adam told it. She said No and was strong about it. Everything else though, Adam was definitely unhappy and it's good he let her go, it's his podcast, and she wasn't a great fit. Move on. But sadly this Gina girl is not better (seems a lateral move), but maybe the future will improve.
I agree. The names Adam mentioned that contributed: Dr Drew, Penn Jillet, Marc Maron…then there's Alison Rosen the millionaire, oh wait she's not and they are
#EscapeBoat
Adam sounded like a bafoon on his explanation of A.R. release. BTW, why should Alison have to have any advertisement of the ACS on her banner? That is her Pod. Granted it is on Corolla Digital, however it is it’s own entity? Corolla was trying to advertise of her work?
Whether she did a good job or not – an employee must have an expectation from management of their responsibilities. That’s just basic management 101. She clearly didn’t do what he wanted her to, however, maybe she would have if she knew the expectation. Who knows?
who the fuck are you?! you amazing, crazy bitch
can’t wait for next week!
Adam's wife found the Sex tape,and said 'get her out of our lives,or else'
Spell much?
Then mount your unicorn and gallop away over a glittery rainbow.
How dull must your senses be to find Jo Lot not funny?
I think the guys agreeing with Adam are wrong. Keep in mind, his explanation was the best things he could come up with. Notice how often Bald BrYan had to say “I'm sorry I did the exact same thing as Alison.” And “I didn't know you were so upset about that.” He needs to communicate. Again he can browbeat the dudes in his abusive coaching style but my guess is he didn't feel right doing that to Alison so his displeasure and her ability to modify was never fully communicated. I know it is a dead horse. Sorry. I have truth OCD.
Adam made some interesting points, but it all comes down to, in my opinion, bad communication on Adam’s part. I can see his side of things based what he said about it on the Jan 12th podcast. But what really got me was the part about Alison participating in the patent trolls. I mean, I don’t know Alison’s take on the story, but it seems that she was just protecting herself and her profits. I mean, Adam brought up that people like Penn Jillet and Dr Drew contributed, but these are freakin millionaires! Of course they can give up a tiny bit of their income, but seriously, Alison shouldn’t even have been asked to pitch it along with these rich dudes. I mean, I love Adam, but fuck that. Time to move on, sure Thursday’s ARIYNBF will be the last we hear about this. Time to move on.
to be fair, Alison and Gina came up with their sign off’s themselves
Marc Maron, Dr Drew, Penn Jillet, these guys are fucking millionaires. It’s not fair or right to ask Alison to pitch in. I don’t disagree with the other things Adam talked about Alison, but this made Adam sound like an out of touch rich A-hole.
I mostly agree with your view, but making her give her profits to the patent trolls along side rich guys like Dr Drew, Marc Maron, Penn Jillet, all the guys that contributed that Adam mentioned…ridiculous. I understand that if maybe if it was just that, but along with the banner thing, maybe that all added up but the patent troll thing alone I can’t fault her. I’m glad she spoke up strongly about that, as Adam told it. She said No and was strong about it. Everything else though, Adam was definitely unhappy and it’s good he let her go, it’s his podcast, and she wasn’t a great fit. Move on. But sadly this Gina girl is not better (seems a lateral move), but maybe the future will improve.
I agree. The names Adam mentioned that contributed: Dr Drew, Penn Jillet, Marc Maron…then there’s Alison Rosen the millionaire, oh wait she’s not and they are
Exactly. To them it is a crusade. It even gives them publicity. He even said it was like a 2 minuse conversation whIle the mics were hot and he said “no biggie” because alison was freaking out (because it was a big deal for her) never to be brought up again but left to fester. Then they have a guffaw over her auctioning off a shirt. Didnt Bryan auction a book? Also, nobody knew the sheister fees would escalate so fast. Context context context. All that said, learn from it. Bosses dont always communicate.
“I invited you to 20 office barbecues but you never invited me to your cat's baptism!” It gets silly fast. There is no comparison. It was like 3 years in that Alison went on a trip with him and said she felt like they finally connected on a personal level. Don't be a standoffish person and then blame it on an employee who is understandable treading softly around you. Get therapy. And I mean that as in, we all need therapy. Some of us could even make it into a podcast and get richer.
Stern+Quivers: let's address that. It is a little weird to compare yourself to Jordan+Pippen, but Good! I think you guys are WAY funnier. Whatever. Did you let everyone know that was the guiding star? Maybe it should be assumed. The problem is EVERYONE is STILL genuinely confused that what you want is more morning zoo. Btw, pick up a phone. Ask Stern what Robin was like at year 4 and if/how he coached her.
Adam’s wife found the Sex tape,and said ‘get her out of our lives,or else’
I think the guys agreeing with Adam are wrong. Keep in mind, his explanation was the best things he could come up with. Notice how often Bald BrYan had to say “I’m sorry I did the exact same thing as Alison.” And “I didn’t know you were so upset about that.” He needs to communicate. Again he can browbeat the dudes in his abusive coaching style but my guess is he didn’t feel right doing that to Alison so his displeasure and her ability to modify was never fully communicated. I know it is a dead horse. Sorry. I have truth OCD.
Exactly. To them it is a crusade. It even gives them publicity. He even said it was like a 2 minuse conversation whIle the mics were hot and he said “no biggie” because alison was freaking out (because it was a big deal for her) never to be brought up again but left to fester. Then they have a guffaw over her auctioning off a shirt. Didnt Bryan auction a book? Also, nobody knew the sheister fees would escalate so fast. Context context context. All that said, learn from it. Bosses dont always communicate.
“I invited you to 20 office barbecues but you never invited me to your cat’s baptism!” It gets silly fast. There is no comparison. It was like 3 years in that Alison went on a trip with him and said she felt like they finally connected on a personal level. Don’t be a standoffish person and then blame it on an employee who is understandable treading softly around you. Get therapy. And I mean that as in, we all need therapy. Some of us could even make it into a podcast and get richer.
Stern+Quivers: let’s address that. It is a little weird to compare yourself to Jordan+Pippen, but Good! I think you guys are WAY funnier. Whatever. Did you let everyone know that was the guiding star? Maybe it should be assumed. The problem is EVERYONE is STILL genuinely confused that what you want is more morning zoo. Btw, pick up a phone. Ask Stern what Robin was like at year 4 and if/how he coached her.
Well Said Allison, the proper mindset to have in my opinion.
What I think is a disconnect for some of the fans of the show is what a “Boss” (Owner, the guy who put up the money and signs the checks) of a business has to risk in the beginning and on an everyday basis. Adam put up a large amount of capital to build a business. Adam hired and paid what seems to be a small tribe of employees. Adam has a right to make changes if he is not comfortable with the environment or the direction of the show. If I owned a business and gave someone an opportunity and felt they were not enthusiastic about making my business successful I would always be looking for their replacement (perception is reality, Adam has to be sold on the employee, not the other way around). Maybe Allison had good reasons for not wanting to do certain things that Adam expected, who knows, doesn't matter.
There are no good guys or bad guys in any of this, it is business. I do find that those who have never owned or risked any of their own money tend to look at these types of situations in a much more personal manner. I think that tune changes greatly when you have your own money on the line. Skin in the game makes all the difference. Most want all of the upside with none of the downside, it is human nature.
Well said Alison
Yesterday, I deleted the ACS app and downloaded Alison's app. Although I was a daily listener of the ACS from the pre-Alison days with Teresa Strasser, his show was sliding downhill. I am tired of Adam's self-aggrandizement and negativity – in fact, he can be downright mean to others. Alison is better off on her own, and I am better off by switching to her show exclusively from now on.
“Sink the pirate ship” – ummm, ok.
Alison, I was SHOCKED to hear that you were no longer on ACS. I am sooooo sorry. I loved your wit and intelligence. I DID NOT like at all how Adam sent you an email basically firing you. In addition, Adam mentioned he didn't even write the email but dictated it. I thought that was low and immature – which is typical of Adam. He is always talking about having “grit” – well he has none. Man up Adam, do the right thing since it is not good to burn bridges. Alison is going to be very successful since she has drive.
Well Said Allison, the proper mindset to have in my opinion.
What I think is a disconnect for some of the fans of the show is what a “Boss” (Owner, the guy who put up the money and signs the checks) of a business has to risk in the beginning and on an everyday basis. Adam put up a large amount of capital to build a business. Adam hired and paid what seems to be a small tribe of employees. Adam has a right to make changes if he is not comfortable with the environment or the direction of the show. If I owned a business and gave someone an opportunity and felt they were not enthusiastic about making my business successful I would always be looking for their replacement (perception is reality, Adam has to be sold on the employee, not the other way around). Maybe Allison had good reasons for not wanting to do certain things that Adam expected, who knows, doesn’t matter.
There are no good guys or bad guys in any of this, it is business. I do find that those who have never owned or risked any of their own money tend to look at these types of situations in a much more personal manner. I think that tune changes greatly when you have your own money on the line. Skin in the game makes all the difference. Most want all of the upside with none of the downside, it is human nature.
Well said Alison
It was a great combo. That's what upsets me. Adam felt like an authentic bitter pill and Alison helped make the medicine go down. I listened everyday since the podcasts inception.
When Alison arrived on the scene I really started looking forward to my daily ritual. I could have listened to her, Adam and Bald banter about the news for hours. It was always cut off too short for me.
Listening to Adam's sad breakdown of the dissmissal felt like he was saying, “I don't think she respects me and I don't want to sit next to someone who doesn't respect me.”
I understand not wanting to be in a work relationship with someone who you respect, but are unsure if they respect you in return. Is it because of low self-esteem that he choose not to have a conversation and investigate?
My delima: (as if y'all care) I can't take either one of them on their own. I really want to support Alison but when she starts going down a road where she's completely unsure of herself and pandering to the masses it unnerves me. You know the, “I couldn't eat yogurt out of a cup, I mean, I could. There's nothing wrong with people who do, it's just I couldn't do it. Well, maybe I could and I'll start doing that. Ahhh, who am I kidding I won't do that, but it's a great idea for people who do do that….”
Argh! Have some ovaries and just be true to yourself. People are always going to disagree with you, forever. Own it.
But, I can take that way more than I can take how fake ACS sounds since Alison left. That's why I unsubscribed to ACS and kept my subscribtion to ARIYNBF. Even if I don't listen, I support you and LOVE your dry and fabulous witt.
“especially of those of a different generation…”
I hire (and fire) people from all walks of life and I'm sick of people saying “they're of a younger generation…you have to treat them differently.”
I thought in this PC world, everyone should be treated the same?
Here's some news for you…it's up to ALISON to make her mark and prove that she wants to be part of the network/show/business…not for Adam to grovel to her. It's HIS SHOW and HIS BUSINESS.
I would have fired her on the refusal to include the network brand on her podcast. No. Questions. Asked.
Here is my take:
Alison did not agree with Adam's politics. Alison came across to me that she was “above” the lowbrow humor that that is the Adam Carolla show, but saw the high profile job as a means to an end. In my opinion, she probably looked at herself as a talented writer (as Adam attested) and looked across the booth and saw two NY Times best selling authors and had contempt…and it showed by the way she distanced herself from the network and her boss. HOW DO YOU NOT READ YOUR COWORKER'S BOOKS…especially when the boss is one of the authors?
You don't have to agree with your boss, but when it's time to play ball, you better have your bat and glove ready to go when it's game time.
“I mean, Adam brought up that people like Penn Jillet and Dr Drew contributed, but these are freakin millionaires!”
As far as I know, none of the ACS crew contributed a big chunk of their income to this campaign. So is Adam going to fire his entire crew as his next move? I think the reason he fired Alison and not the rest of his crew was he wants his show to be all about him and Alison was gaining attention as she did better and better with her role as cohost.
For example, I know that Bald Bryan donated a book but I don't think he donated any of his show's income. Alison's show *did* start off with a plug for the patent troll campaign and she had the 2nd highest-rated show on his network so this plug was definitely worth something. (Listen to http://alisonrosen.com/2014/06… for an example of this plug.)
I should also point out that despite Dr. Drew making a big contribution, Adam has been treating him quite poorly on the Adam & Drew Show.
Yesterday, I deleted the ACS app and downloaded Alison’s app. Although I was a daily listener of the ACS from the pre-Alison days with Teresa Strasser, his show was sliding downhill. I am tired of Adam’s self-aggrandizement and negativity – in fact, he can be downright mean to others. Alison is better off on her own, and I am better off by switching to her show exclusively from now on.
Why wouldn't you support Adam as a 'tuned in' sidekick?
He seemed too generous and gracious with you on air. BTW, not supporting the patent troll offensive or using custom enabling show content provided by Adam's trusted colleagues needs to be explained or stereotype observations should easily linger for Alison.
You easily say “ZIP IT CUNT” to end your on air time, now simply fade away.
Alison, I was SHOCKED to hear that you were no longer on ACS. I am sooooo sorry. I loved your wit and intelligence. I DID NOT like at all how Adam sent you an email basically firing you. In addition, Adam mentioned he didn’t even write the email but dictated it. I thought that was low and immature – which is typical of Adam. He is always talking about having “grit” – well he has none. Man up Adam, do the right thing since it is not good to burn bridges. Alison is going to be very successful since she has drive.
I agree that Adam could do a better job of communicating his feelings but most of us are not good at that.
It was a great combo. That’s what upsets me. Adam felt like an authentic bitter pill and Alison helped make the medicine go down. I listened everyday since the podcasts inception.
When Alison arrived on the scene I really started looking forward to my daily ritual. I could have listened to her, Adam and Bald banter about the news for hours. It was always cut off too short for me.
Listening to Adam’s sad breakdown of the dissmissal felt like he was saying, “I don’t think she respects me and I don’t want to sit next to someone who doesn’t respect me.”
I understand not wanting to be in a work relationship with someone who you respect, but are unsure if they respect you in return. Is it because of low self-esteem that he choose not to have a conversation and investigate?
My delima: (as if y’all care) I can’t take either one of them on their own. I really want to support Alison but when she starts going down a road where she’s completely unsure of herself and pandering to the masses it unnerves me. You know the, “I couldn’t eat yogurt out of a cup, I mean, I could. There’s nothing wrong with people who do, it’s just I couldn’t do it. Well, maybe I could and I’ll start doing that. Ahhh, who am I kidding I won’t do that, but it’s a great idea for people who do do that….”
Argh! Have some ovaries and just be true to yourself. People are always going to disagree with you, forever. Own it.
But, I can take that way more than I can take how fake ACS sounds since Alison left. That’s why I unsubscribed to ACS and kept my subscribtion to ARIYNBF. Even if I don’t listen, I support you and LOVE your dry and fabulous witt.
“especially of those of a different generation…”
I hire (and fire) people from all walks of life and I’m sick of people saying “they’re of a younger generation…you have to treat them differently.”
I thought in this PC world, everyone should be treated the same?
Here’s some news for you…it’s up to ALISON to make her mark and prove that she wants to be part of the network/show/business…not for Adam to grovel to her. It’s HIS SHOW and HIS BUSINESS.
I would have fired her on the refusal to include the network brand on her podcast. No. Questions. Asked.
Here is my take:
Alison did not agree with Adam’s politics. Alison came across to me that she was “above” the lowbrow humor that that is the Adam Carolla show, but saw the high profile job as a means to an end. In my opinion, she probably looked at herself as a talented writer (as Adam attested) and looked across the booth and saw two NY Times best selling authors and had contempt…and it showed by the way she distanced herself from the network and her boss. HOW DO YOU NOT READ YOUR COWORKER’S BOOKS…especially when the boss is one of the authors?
You don’t have to agree with your boss, but when it’s time to play ball, you better have your bat and glove ready to go when it’s game time.
OK…so she can’t pull money out of her pocket. I get it.
Why not have a 12 hour ARIYNBF podcast and raise money by donations? DO SOMETHING.
Quit making excuses. She decided not to contribute and she paid the price. What’s there to debate?
“I mean, Adam brought up that people like Penn Jillet and Dr Drew contributed, but these are freakin millionaires!”
As far as I know, none of the ACS crew contributed a big chunk of their income to this campaign. So is Adam going to fire his entire crew as his next move? I think the reason he fired Alison and not the rest of his crew was he wants his show to be all about him and Alison was gaining attention as she did better and better with her role as cohost.
For example, I know that Bald Bryan donated a book but I don’t think he donated any of his show’s income. Alison’s show *did* start off with a plug for the patent troll campaign and she had the 2nd highest-rated show on his network so this plug was definitely worth something. (Listen to http://alisonrosen.com/2014/06/ariynbf-291-with-jason-nash/ for an example of this plug.)
I should also point out that despite Dr. Drew making a big contribution, Adam has been treating him quite poorly on the Adam & Drew Show.
Why wouldn’t you support Adam as a ‘tuned in’ sidekick?
He seemed too generous and gracious with you on air. BTW, not supporting the patent troll offensive or using custom enabling show content provided by Adam’s trusted colleagues needs to be explained or stereotype observations should easily linger for Alison.
You easily say “ZIP IT CUNT” to end your on air time, now simply fade away.
You will be missed on the ACS. I hope you continue to do your podcast and that more opportunities will come your way.
I agree that Adam could do a better job of communicating his feelings but most of us are not good at that.
Alison, you are a class act.
First off ….I really like Alison and her podcast, but after listening to Adam's reasonings behind him firing her yesterday….I can kind off see why.
The not wanting anything to do with the Carolla digital logo, not supporting the fight against the trolls, not reading any of their books..etc….I mean …come on…..she was not a team player, and Im surprised that she wasn't let go a long time ago.
I think that all of you Adam bashers need to chill and see both sides of it.
regardless…good luck to Alison going fwd
Alison, I don't think you need to explain yourself any further regarding your recent firing. You've said all you need to on both the Crabfest, and Christina Pazsitzky “That's Deep, Bro” podcast. Very smart decision to do this as a guest on a podcast. You get your story out, without grandstanding, and making a big deal out of it. After listening to your stories on the Crabfest, it was like coming home! Your voice, your stories, your humor, all but cement why everyone loves you so much. Thanks for sharing your life with us! We love you!
#rosenation4life biatches!
Alison seems like a classy and generally normal person. I don't listen to her show religiously but am a huge podcast fan in general, and I find her good at the medium and ARIYNBF more in line with what most comedy podcasts are. ACS is really more structured like a radio show (with the obvious lack of restrictions). I think the split is definitely better for her in the long run, especially given Carolla's reputation these days.
Word!
You will be missed on the ACS. I hope you continue to do your podcast and that more opportunities will come your way.
Agreed….she should have worked out something. The problem is that ACS seems a bit dysfunctional. It’s not like they had any staff meetings where expectations could be set and problems could be hashed out. Adam seems to be passive aggressively “keeping score” as opposed to dealing with problems as they occur.
We have to suffer through his love letters to John Hiatt or God help us – listen when he makes Bryan play that crap, but now Adam has done the unthinkable. You are a gem, Allison. Adam's not as smart as I thought.
Alison, you are a class act.
First off ….I really like Alison and her podcast, but after listening to Adam’s reasonings behind him firing her yesterday….I can kind off see why.
The not wanting anything to do with the Carolla digital logo, not supporting the fight against the trolls, not reading any of their books..etc….I mean …come on…..she was not a team player, and Im surprised that she wasn’t let go a long time ago.
I think that all of you Adam bashers need to chill and see both sides of it.
regardless…good luck to Alison going fwd
Alison, I don’t think you need to explain yourself any further regarding your recent firing. You’ve said all you need to on both the Crabfest, and Christina Pazsitzky “That’s Deep, Bro” podcast. Very smart decision to do this as a guest on a podcast. You get your story out, without grandstanding, and making a big deal out of it. After listening to your stories on the Crabfest, it was like coming home! Your voice, your stories, your humor, all but cement why everyone loves you so much. Thanks for sharing your life with us! We love you!
#rosenation4life biatches!
Alison seems like a classy and generally normal person. I don’t listen to her show religiously but am a huge podcast fan in general, and I find her good at the medium and ARIYNBF more in line with what most comedy podcasts are. ACS is really more structured like a radio show (with the obvious lack of restrictions). I think the split is definitely better for her in the long run, especially given Carolla’s reputation these days.
Word!
Just found out you're no longer part of the acs or network by way of for crying out loud. You will definitely be missed but at the same time you weren't being used all that much recently anyway. Per the news segment that became an afterthought.
Maybe I'll have to start listening to ariynbf more often but now that I have to go out of my way to download it….:P
best of luck that you probably don't need in your current and future endeavors
We have to suffer through his love letters to John Hiatt or God help us – listen when he makes Bryan play that crap, but now Adam has done the unthinkable. You are a gem, Allison. Adam’s not as smart as I thought.
what is it with Ricks?
Wrong! Adam needs to tell people what he needs from them, it's not like they are graduates of side kick school and should already know what's expected. He has a very strong personality, is extremely opinionated and no one wants to be accused of squashing one of his stories.
Just found out you’re no longer part of the acs or network by way of for crying out loud. You will definitely be missed but at the same time you weren’t being used all that much recently anyway. Per the news segment that became an afterthought.
Maybe I’ll have to start listening to ariynbf more often but now that I have to go out of my way to download it….:P
best of luck that you probably don’t need in your current and future endeavors
It is amazing that it seems no amount of words can break through the us-vs-them instinct. That, and I wanted the 200th comment. Double hundy!!!
Wrong! Adam needs to tell people what he needs from them, it’s not like they are graduates of side kick school and should already know what’s expected. He has a very strong personality, is extremely opinionated and no one wants to be accused of squashing one of his stories.
It is amazing that it seems no amount of words can break through the us-vs-them instinct. That, and I wanted the 200th comment. Double hundy!!!
You believed the lame reasons. Just for starters: 1. Is Alison's replacement going to put the ACS logo on her top-rated podcast? Trick question, there is no way in hell the replacement is going to have a successful podcast. Allison was simply doing the mirror image of what Adam does, and he can't brook that. And he didn't talk to her about how he extrapolated that to something that Alison probably didn't mean. I bet she didn't know how important this was to him. Gary was the go-between. This is the coach not being a team player.
PS, it's not about bashing Adam. That is the most nefarious red herring. It's about Adam bashing himself. I for one don't take any pleasure whatsoever in any of this. I just understand it. He had reasons, of course, most of them kind of silly extrapolations of assumed intentions or uncorroborated hearsay (Mike Lynch stops sending news stories, doesn't tell Adam, when Adam finds out he doesn't bring it up with Alison- maybe, you know Alison assumed that was supposed to be her job and that Mike was doing her a favor- of course, we don't know, it was big enough to get mad at but not important enough to ask her about). Most of them added up to a gut feeling he has a legal “right” to act on but not a logical justification. He canned Alison because she is someone he could can. Notice how EVERY gripe he had for her either was not applicable to Bryan (Bryan has a podicast but not even on Carolla network) or Bryan did exactly what Allison did and got a pass (you are the sound effects guy) . He never actually made her aware of his displeasure spread out over 4 years. The last category can I would bet be summed up by it being impossible to tell when he is yakking whether he wants you to step up or he will be pissed if you interject. He thinks it should be obvious but it would have been solved with a 10 second conversation. And again, the nail in the coffin is everyone is still utterly confused about what he wants. The point is, he's never going to get where he wants to go, and he probably could have with someone that has talent that could so easily have learned the easy stuff. Just an opinion.
Senior Payne Diaz,
Adam gone fucked up.
To be fair, I had already started deleting most of the ACS podcasts before I listened to them, only bothering to listen if I was really interested in the guest or if it was an Adam, BB, Alison only ep. I finally just unsubscribed when it went to “best of” during the holidays. I didn't hear the ep where Alison's dismissal was announced or the one where he “explained” it, I've just read the list. Sounds petty and due to bad communication from management, but I wasn't there and it's not really any of my business. The show was just starting to sound like a bad morning radio show with curses, too tied into an old format. And I may not be a real fan for thinking this, but I hated the morning zoo vibe of the BB sound drops, the #topdrops inanity, terrible fan phone calls, and the beating into the ground of Jo Koy bits that were funny once. I liked the news, and the subtle way that Alison would push back on some of Carolla's opinions. The show needed more of that, not less. I did want to thank Alison, from the bottom of my heart, for making Adam feel tenative about talking about Laguna Seca. Nothing made me swipe left and hit delete faster than seeing “Laguna Seca” in the description. JEEE-ZUS, is that dead air.
You believed the lame reasons. Just for starters: 1. Is Alison’s replacement going to put the ACS logo on her top-rated podcast? Trick question, there is no way in hell the replacement is going to have a successful podcast. Allison was simply doing the mirror image of what Adam does, and he can’t brook that. And he didn’t talk to her about how he extrapolated that to something that Alison probably didn’t mean. I bet she didn’t know how important this was to him. Gary was the go-between. This is the coach not being a team player.
PS, it’s not about bashing Adam. That is the most nefarious red herring. It’s about Adam bashing himself. I for one don’t take any pleasure whatsoever in any of this. I just understand it. He had reasons, of course, most of them kind of silly extrapolations of assumed intentions or uncorroborated hearsay (Mike Lynch stops sending news stories, doesn’t tell Adam, when Adam finds out he doesn’t bring it up with Alison- maybe, you know Alison assumed that was supposed to be her job and that Mike was doing her a favor- of course, we don’t know, it was big enough to get mad at but not important enough to ask her about). Most of them added up to a gut feeling he has a legal “right” to act on but not a logical justification. He canned Alison because she is someone he could can. Notice how EVERY gripe he had for her either was not applicable to Bryan (Bryan has a podicast but not even on Carolla network) or Bryan did exactly what Allison did and got a pass (you are the sound effects guy) . He never actually made her aware of his displeasure spread out over 4 years. The last category can I would bet be summed up by it being impossible to tell when he is yakking whether he wants you to step up or he will be pissed if you interject. He thinks it should be obvious but it would have been solved with a 10 second conversation. And again, the nail in the coffin is everyone is still utterly confused about what he wants. The point is, he’s never going to get where he wants to go, and he probably could have with someone that has talent that could so easily have learned the easy stuff. Just an opinion.
Senior Payne Diaz,
Adam gone fucked up.
THIS was funny! –> “I couldn't eat yogurt out of a cup, I mean, I could. There's nothing wrong with people who do, it's just I couldn't do it. Well, maybe I could and I'll start doing that. Ahhh, who am I kidding I won't do that, but it's a great idea for people who do do that….”
Agreed, but it's not so much communicating feelings as discussing what's working and not working on the show. His team needs to meet once a week and talk about this. It's not about hurt feelings.
To be fair, I had already started deleting most of the ACS podcasts before I listened to them, only bothering to listen if I was really interested in the guest or if it was an Adam, BB, Alison only ep. I finally just unsubscribed when it went to “best of” during the holidays. I didn’t hear the ep where Alison’s dismissal was announced or the one where he “explained” it, I’ve just read the list. Sounds petty and due to bad communication from management, but I wasn’t there and it’s not really any of my business. The show was just starting to sound like a bad morning radio show with curses, too tied into an old format. And I may not be a real fan for thinking this, but I hated the morning zoo vibe of the BB sound drops, the #topdrops inanity, terrible fan phone calls, and the beating into the ground of Jo Koy bits that were funny once. I liked the news, and the subtle way that Alison would push back on some of Carolla’s opinions. The show needed more of that, not less. I did want to thank Alison, from the bottom of my heart, for making Adam feel tenative about talking about Laguna Seca. Nothing made me swipe left and hit delete faster than seeing “Laguna Seca” in the description. JEEE-ZUS, is that dead air.
I completely agree with you. I've been an avid listener to ACS for years and there were many times where i was like “Alison hasn't said a word for 5 minutes”. I never really thought much of that, I'm not Adam and I didn't know exactly what her role was. After listening to Adams “explanation” podcast, I realized he thought the same thing as me. haha
I also agree with when it comes to Alison refusing to include the network brand in her banner… I'm surprised Adam even gave her a choice. You're from my studio, my logo will be on your banner. It kind of shows how nice Adam actually is.
and I dont think i need to even mention how shocked i was to find out she refused to donate her “click through” earnings to the patent troll cause…
I agree with Adam, she didn't quite fit. I'm really going to miss Alison on the show, but I think Adam knows what he's doing.
THIS was funny! –> “I couldn’t eat yogurt out of a cup, I mean, I could. There’s nothing wrong with people who do, it’s just I couldn’t do it. Well, maybe I could and I’ll start doing that. Ahhh, who am I kidding I won’t do that, but it’s a great idea for people who do do that….”
Agreed, but it’s not so much communicating feelings as discussing what’s working and not working on the show. His team needs to meet once a week and talk about this. It’s not about hurt feelings.
I completely agree with you. I’ve been an avid listener to ACS for years and there were many times where i was like “Alison hasn’t said a word for 5 minutes”. I never really thought much of that, I’m not Adam and I didn’t know exactly what her role was. After listening to Adams “explanation” podcast, I realized he thought the same thing as me. haha
I also agree with when it comes to Alison refusing to include the network brand in her banner… I’m surprised Adam even gave her a choice. You’re from my studio, my logo will be on your banner. It kind of shows how nice Adam actually is.
and I dont think i need to even mention how shocked i was to find out she refused to donate her “click through” earnings to the patent troll cause…
I agree with Adam, she didn’t quite fit. I’m really going to miss Alison on the show, but I think Adam knows what he’s doing.
The point isn't whether it's okay to use your employers connections as leverage. It's how you reciprocate that. It seems Alison was fine with reaping the benefits of being on Adam's network, but wasn't interested in actually being a part of the show other than reading the news. At any job, doing the bare minimum and distancing yourself from your boss/company while only being self-serving is never a good move. I wish Alison had stepped up to the plate more, as even before the firing I often wondered if she was even in the room, having hardly heard her. And it worked! As a result I tuned into her podcast to hear more of her, but it was harmful to ACS.
Yeah but the difference between her and Bryan was that over the years she became less and less a voice on the show while putting all her energy into her own podcast. I wish she'd spoken up more and not taken such a backseat as I enjoyed listening to her when she did actually participate.
It was the culmination of several things, not just the patent troll donations. I'm sad to see Alison go as well, but after hearing all the reasons it makes sense from an employer/employee standpoint. Hoping Gina can eventually win us over as well as Alison did.
I don't see anything positive coming to ACS from this change. Adam has evolved into someone that is becoming increasingly harder to listen to. He talks about how weird Letterman is when the cameras are off and that Ellen is a total bitch yet I'm getting those same vibes from him these days. I get the impression that his employees are either yes men or are afraid of him. While I agree with his politics (I would love more debates with politicians et al), his show has become repetitive. Same shit different day. Picking on friends and staff comes across as desperate. Complaining about the same thing everyday is boring. I've been listening to Loveline archives on iTunes and Loveline Adam was much funnier and more entertaining than 2015 Adam. I said before I think he made the Alison change because his numbers are down but he's the one that needs to change. Maybe he's spread too thin and stressed to the max as something doesn't seem right about the guy. If that's the case, I hope for him and his family's sake he figures things out…
The point isn’t whether it’s okay to use your employers connections as leverage. It’s how you reciprocate that. It seems Alison was fine with reaping the benefits of being on Adam’s network, but wasn’t interested in actually being a part of the show other than reading the news. At any job, doing the bare minimum and distancing yourself from your boss/company while only being self-serving is never a good move. I wish Alison had stepped up to the plate more, as even before the firing I often wondered if she was even in the room, having hardly heard her. And it worked! As a result I tuned into her podcast to hear more of her, but it was harmful to ACS.
Yeah but the difference between her and Bryan was that over the years she became less and less a voice on the show while putting all her energy into her own podcast. I wish she’d spoken up more and not taken such a backseat as I enjoyed listening to her when she did actually participate.
It was the culmination of several things, not just the patent troll donations. I’m sad to see Alison go as well, but after hearing all the reasons it makes sense from an employer/employee standpoint. Hoping Gina can eventually win us over as well as Alison did.
I don’t see anything positive coming to ACS from this change. Adam has evolved into someone that is becoming increasingly harder to listen to. He talks about how weird Letterman is when the cameras are off and that Ellen is a total bitch yet I’m getting those same vibes from him these days. I get the impression that his employees are either yes men or are afraid of him. While I agree with his politics (I would love more debates with politicians et al), his show has become repetitive. Same shit different day. Picking on friends and staff comes across as desperate. Complaining about the same thing everyday is boring. I’ve been listening to Loveline archives on iTunes and Loveline Adam was much funnier and more entertaining than 2015 Adam. I said before I think he made the Alison change because his numbers are down but he’s the one that needs to change. Maybe he’s spread too thin and stressed to the max as something doesn’t seem right about the guy. If that’s the case, I hope for him and his family’s sake he figures things out…
Just like the tension between Adam and Dr. Drew worked on Love Line, so did the tension work between Adam and Alison. She was the only funny (female) representing the voice of (if a a bit neurotic, which was even funnier) reason in Adam's dictatorship. That's what made the show so funny! Can't listen to him anymore. This move he pulled showed that he has truly lost his perspective and doesn't understand what makes the show funny. NOT his endless rantings, but the reactions and interactions with his team. Well, that's over now. Adam just jumped the shark.
I love Adam Carolla, but I don't understand his complaints about Alison not donating to his anti-troll campaign and putting his banner on her website. First of all, the latter complaint could have been easily correctly by Adam directing her to do that. But as for the first complaint, I thought to myself: wasn't Alison's podcast part of the Carolla Digital brand? In other words, if and when Alison's podcast became more popular, didn't that improve Adam's bottom line? Maybe I am confused about the business relationship Alison and Adam had…
Wasn't Adam's complain implying that she was participating TOO much? “Not much of a side-kick material..needs her own show.” Sure, bring in an always agreeing bimbo giggling in the background, that will make Adam's show better..right?…NOT! Tension, differences of opinion, funny heated arguments, Alison crippling gambling disability in just about every game – now that's FUNNY. Not yet another rant about LA traffic please. Adam is losing his touch with reality, with his funny bone, which is what happens when you only hang out with and listen to the yes men in your life. Yup, Adam jumped the shark.
“Maybe I am confused about the business relationship Alison and Adam had…”
You are correct that Adam made more money the more listeners Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend got. In fact this podcast was #2 on his network. Alison was using this popularity to support the anti-troll campaign. Listen to the beginning of http://alisonrosen.com/2014/04… for an example of this.
Alison did a great job in my opinion. She helped Carolla Digital grow and helped the business make money. I don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, whether or not Alison was a team player or whether she contributed to The Patent Troll Defense Fund, but, when I hear the word “team', I think of that scene from “The Untouchables” , the baseball bat wielding gangster, yelling to his underlings to be “part of a team.” As to the Patent Troll Fund, well, no employer ever asked me, as an employee, to contribute a portion of my wages to help pay the company's legal fees. That's just the cost of doing business. As an employee (?), Alison was under no obligation to help pay Adam's legal costs. That being said, I feel that Alison is a team player, is a generous person who is willing to help out when she can .
I total get that maybe Alison couldn't contribute financially to the patent troll because maybe she's strapped for cash. (point for Alison) However, I did find it a bit odd that the Alison never brought up Adam's contractor show on Spike, and discuss the details the day after a new episode aired. (point for Adam). Regarding Adam's logo on Alison's podcast picture…..if you're renting out Adam's studio (paying $$$) to record your own podcast, NO LOGO. If you're using Adam's studio for free to record your own podcast, YES LOGO! Without hearing Alison's rebuttal on Adam's reasons for firing her, we will never really know both sides of the story.
I think that this is probably the first time in Adam's life where he has been “the boss” for a long period of time (5 years). It's possible that maybe he doesn't really know that much about managing people, or how to talk with your employees and all those other things you learn when you're taking management classes in college or if you've had a good boss or a mentor in the past. He is famous for being funny and talking into the mic. Just because you're in the entertainment industry doesn't automatically mean you know how to manage people or balance a checkbook. I guess I'm cutting Adam some slack here. Could Adam have treated this situation better? mmm…Yeah. Could Alison have been a better employee? mmmm..Yeah. This type of stuff probably happens daily in thousands of workplaces throughtout the world. The only difference is that those other workplaces don't have hundreds of thousands of listeners.
Just like the tension between Adam and Dr. Drew worked on Love Line, so did the tension work between Adam and Alison. She was the only funny (female) representing the voice of (if a a bit neurotic, which was even funnier) reason in Adam’s dictatorship. That’s what made the show so funny! Can’t listen to him anymore. This move he pulled showed that he has truly lost his perspective and doesn’t understand what makes the show funny. NOT his endless rantings, but the reactions and interactions with his team. Well, that’s over now. Adam just jumped the shark.
I love Adam Carolla, but I don’t understand his complaints about Alison not donating to his anti-troll campaign and putting his banner on her website. First of all, the latter complaint could have been easily correctly by Adam directing her to do that. But as for the first complaint, I thought to myself: wasn’t Alison’s podcast part of the Carolla Digital brand? In other words, if and when Alison’s podcast became more popular, didn’t that improve Adam’s bottom line? Maybe I am confused about the business relationship Alison and Adam had…
But Alison’s podcast was part of Adam’s business! ARIYNBF was part of the Carolla Digital stable! Wasn’t she doing enough by building her podcast and make it more popular, which put more money in Adam’s pocket? I think Adam had a perfect right to manage his personal podcast, but he made a poor business decision by cutting Alison Rosen loose completely, and letting her podcast get away from the Carolla Digital brand.
The complaints are basically fine. AND you take the 5 seconds to explain why it is important to you to the other person.
Wasn’t Adam’s complain implying that she was participating TOO much? “Not much of a side-kick material..needs her own show.” Sure, bring in an always agreeing bimbo giggling in the background, that will make Adam’s show better..right?…NOT! Tension, differences of opinion, funny heated arguments, Alison crippling gambling disability in just about every game – now that’s FUNNY. Not yet another rant about LA traffic please. Adam is losing his touch with reality, with his funny bone, which is what happens when you only hang out with and listen to the yes men in your life. Yup, Adam jumped the shark.
“Maybe I am confused about the business relationship Alison and Adam had…”
You are correct that Adam made more money the more listeners Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend got. In fact this podcast was #2 on his network. Alison was using this popularity to support the anti-troll campaign. Listen to the beginning of http://alisonrosen.com/2014/04/ariynbf-274-speaking-of-speaking-fomo-fit-with-a-kissable-face/ for an example of this.
Alison did a great job in my opinion. She helped Carolla Digital grow and helped the business make money. I don’t know about the behind the scenes stuff, whether or not Alison was a team player or whether she contributed to The Patent Troll Defense Fund, but, when I hear the word “team’, I think of that scene from “The Untouchables” , the baseball bat wielding gangster, yelling to his underlings to be “part of a team.” As to the Patent Troll Fund, well, no employer ever asked me, as an employee, to contribute a portion of my wages to help pay the company’s legal fees. That’s just the cost of doing business. As an employee (?), Alison was under no obligation to help pay Adam’s legal costs. That being said, I feel that Alison is a team player, is a generous person who is willing to help out when she can .
I total get that maybe Alison couldn’t contribute financially to the patent troll because maybe she’s strapped for cash. (point for Alison) However, I did find it a bit odd that the Alison never brought up Adam’s contractor show on Spike, and discuss the details the day after a new episode aired. (point for Adam). Regarding Adam’s logo on Alison’s podcast picture…..if you’re renting out Adam’s studio (paying $$$) to record your own podcast, NO LOGO. If you’re using Adam’s studio for free to record your own podcast, YES LOGO! Without hearing Alison’s rebuttal on Adam’s reasons for firing her, we will never really know both sides of the story.
I think that this is probably the first time in Adam’s life where he has been “the boss” for a long period of time (5 years). It’s possible that maybe he doesn’t really know that much about managing people, or how to talk with your employees and all those other things you learn when you’re taking management classes in college or if you’ve had a good boss or a mentor in the past. He is famous for being funny and talking into the mic. Just because you’re in the entertainment industry doesn’t automatically mean you know how to manage people or balance a checkbook. I guess I’m cutting Adam some slack here. Could Adam have treated this situation better? mmm…Yeah. Could Alison have been a better employee? mmmm..Yeah. This type of stuff probably happens daily in thousands of workplaces throughtout the world. The only difference is that those other workplaces don’t have hundreds of thousands of listeners.
Very gracious of you, my best friend.
The complaints are basically fine. AND you take the 5 seconds to explain why it is important to you to the other person.
Banner logo issue: realize that the reason Adam wanted the iTunes front page banner logo was because Alison produced that ultra-successful podcast from which Adam wanted the pub. I suspect what followed was vague negotiation, poor direction, miscommunication followed by narcissistic injury. I wouldn't have personally been as protective as Alison, but then I am too lackadaisical about my success. She was just managing her image the way Adam does, but she has less of an empire so has to stick close to her knitting. He never explained to her how impor tantalizing it was for hers to be the only podcast required to have the logo. Then she took detailed steps to make it perfect because her podcast is extremely important to her and Gary and Adam dropped it in favor of being butt-hurt…imho. he will talk for years about how your thing is really important to you but the reason he never actually learns it is because he is only resentful that his thing isn't important to you. And remember he only talks to you on-air, while he is joking, sort of. So you had better have amazing feelers. That said, I don't like the idea of kow-towing to liberal ass wipes, but I don't have to live in Hollywood.
“I was a big fan of Adam's until about mid-2013, where he started becoming a crazy person.” Yes, I think it is hard to imagine how stressful it must be to sued, and how that would affect someone emotionally.
In all of Alison's recent interviews the theme is surprise on her part. If she was racking her brain to find the reason she was fired that means he never formerly talked to her about these issues. And I don't mean one time, when he asked her to do things. You need to be meeting with your employees on a regular basis, critiquing, giving feedback, and communicating with them. Adam's idea of good people are the ones who can stay one step ahead of him. People that can come up with everything he wants them to do their own accord, without him ever having him to tell them what to do. Sure that's great in some dream utopia, but this isn't the real world. Basic relationship dynamics state that this isn't healthy. You need to keep communication open and flowing. A good and healthy boss directs and guides their employees in the way the would like them to perform. You can't just sit back silently hoping they catch your subtle clues along the way and they perform exactly they way you want them too. And when they don't, you just fire them. Come on now, there just isn't something right about that. It isn't the leaving of Alison that we are most mad about it is the lack of communication, that resulted in Alison feeling like she was “disposable.” No one should be made to feel that way no matter what there performance may or may not have been.
Very gracious of you, my best friend.
Banner logo issue: realize that the reason Adam wanted the iTunes front page banner logo was because Alison produced that ultra-successful podcast from which Adam wanted the pub. I suspect what followed was vague negotiation, poor direction, miscommunication followed by narcissistic injury. I wouldn’t have personally been as protective as Alison, but then I am too lackadaisical about my success. She was just managing her image the way Adam does, but she has less of an empire so has to stick close to her knitting. He never explained to her how impor tantalizing it was for hers to be the only podcast required to have the logo. Then she took detailed steps to make it perfect because her podcast is extremely important to her and Gary and Adam dropped it in favor of being butt-hurt…imho. he will talk for years about how your thing is really important to you but the reason he never actually learns it is because he is only resentful that his thing isn’t important to you. And remember he only talks to you on-air, while he is joking, sort of. So you had better have amazing feelers. That said, I don’t like the idea of kow-towing to liberal ass wipes, but I don’t have to live in Hollywood.
“I was a big fan of Adam’s until about mid-2013, where he started becoming a crazy person.” Yes, I think it is hard to imagine how stressful it must be to sued, and how that would affect someone emotionally.
In all of Alison’s recent interviews the theme is surprise on her part. If she was racking her brain to find the reason she was fired that means he never formerly talked to her about these issues. And I don’t mean one time, when he asked her to do things. You need to be meeting with your employees on a regular basis, critiquing, giving feedback, and communicating with them. Adam’s idea of good people are the ones who can stay one step ahead of him. People that can come up with everything he wants them to do their own accord, without him ever having him to tell them what to do. Sure that’s great in some dream utopia, but this isn’t the real world. Basic relationship dynamics state that this isn’t healthy. You need to keep communication open and flowing. A good and healthy boss directs and guides their employees in the way the would like them to perform. You can’t just sit back silently hoping they catch your subtle clues along the way and they perform exactly they way you want them too. And when they don’t, you just fire them. Come on now, there just isn’t something right about that. It isn’t the leaving of Alison that we are most mad about it is the lack of communication, that resulted in Alison feeling like she was “disposable.” No one should be made to feel that way no matter what there performance may or may not have been.
Yes AND, that is a little chicken or the egg. First, I noticed recently a concerted effort made by Bryan to be more vocal just in the last couple months. Thus, I wonder if he got the talking to that Alison could have also gotten. Second, I wonder how much the marginalization was the other way around after the decision was crystalized. Also, he made the statement that he supported her “bits” that she brought in by saying they were funny and that she dropped the ball. But I NEVER got the impression that he supported them on-air. I wasn't there so I don't know, so I would like to hear Alison's take on that one. But I got the impression that he kind of sat back. He certainly didn't “yes and” them. Mabye since he's the boss he liked the break. But I could see Alison reading the tea leaves as that meaning he didn't like it.
I like Adam & Alison so I don't want to take a side here, but if it's true that she didn't want his logo associated with her show when it's on his network, & her refusal to contribute to the patent troll fight, those are 2 huge problems. Anyone who listens knows that she's suber liberal & disagrees with his politics, but if it's bad enough for her to be ashamed of being associated with him, then this is what had to happen.
daisy, Adam specifically outlined all the issues that led up to letting Alison go, and it definitely was a case of her not participating enough. Everything from refusing to have the Carolla digital logo on her podcast banner on iTunes, to not talking enough during the show, to refusing news story requests to comment on. There was a lot more than that, but the gist of it was certainly that Alison wasn't a team player on ACS, and was more into doing her own show.
Yes AND, that is a little chicken or the egg. First, I noticed recently a concerted effort made by Bryan to be more vocal just in the last couple months. Thus, I wonder if he got the talking to that Alison could have also gotten. Second, I wonder how much the marginalization was the other way around after the decision was crystalized. Also, he made the statement that he supported her “bits” that she brought in by saying they were funny and that she dropped the ball. But I NEVER got the impression that he supported them on-air. I wasn’t there so I don’t know, so I would like to hear Alison’s take on that one. But I got the impression that he kind of sat back. He certainly didn’t “yes and” them. Mabye since he’s the boss he liked the break. But I could see Alison reading the tea leaves as that meaning he didn’t like it.
I like Adam & Alison so I don’t want to take a side here, but if it’s true that she didn’t want his logo associated with her show when it’s on his network, & her refusal to contribute to the patent troll fight, those are 2 huge problems. Anyone who listens knows that she’s suber liberal & disagrees with his politics, but if it’s bad enough for her to be ashamed of being associated with him, then this is what had to happen.
daisy, Adam specifically outlined all the issues that led up to letting Alison go, and it definitely was a case of her not participating enough. Everything from refusing to have the Carolla digital logo on her podcast banner on iTunes, to not talking enough during the show, to refusing news story requests to comment on. There was a lot more than that, but the gist of it was certainly that Alison wasn’t a team player on ACS, and was more into doing her own show.
Guess I was wrong… Seriously didn’t think Alison liked Bryan at all…
I'm starting to think maybe Kevin Smith was right about ACE…as the ultimate betrayal I think I am going to switch subscriptions, from ACS to Smodcast…as for you Ms. Rosen, you best get some good guests into your dining room…you won't be able to survive with that posse you pulled together today…as likable and supportive as they seem to be
Cmon pony, you don’t really believe that, do you? In addition to everything else going on in the guy’s life, he needs to ‘coach up’ his sidekick? This isn’t podcasting 101, he has the Guiness World Record on downloads. You think [insert any wildly successful sports team, business, etc] spends any time telling their #2 how to do their job?
Adam’s explanation said it all. I’d love to hear what Alison has to say on this but maybe it’s best to leave it in the past. Alison has acted with a lot of class during this but I realize now that Adam has too. He still should have talked to her but Alison should have been open about all the ways she really didn’t participate in the show. Although that kind of perspective is hard to ask of anyone…
Yes, it is hard to tell who likes who as ACS has always been a bit tense. I did some research and discovered that pretty much everyone loves Alison except for Adam. For example, read this conversation that I had with Dawson: https://twitter.com/DawsAngeles/status/555639154432700417
I’m sure that Alison is a bit frustrated when she got virtually everyone to love her yet Adam is portraying her as someone who didn’t care about ACS. I just listened to her on Bryan’s show at http://andersonandbryan.com/2015/01/16/top-5-cute-and-cuddly-creatures-guest-alison-rosen/ and Bryan mentioned that she had been on his show before so she isn’t a “new” friend of Bryan’s…
I’m starting to think maybe Kevin Smith was right about ACE…as the ultimate betrayal I think I am going to switch subscriptions, from ACS to Smodcast…as for you Ms. Rosen, you best get some good guests into your dining room…you won’t be able to survive with that posse you pulled together today…as likable and supportive as they seem to be
Sometimes a situation gets toxic….you just have to move on. If you and your co-workers get on each others nerves, it can not be repaired. Like Adam said, moving on. Ok, but the the Thursday Gang move was so low class. The pod casting universe was built on one show helping another show, for the greater good. One show going on another show, different network, no problem. And the asking for payment of your legal fees was also low class. Former friend suing you, former co-workers who refuse to work with/for you, your wife goes on another podcast to complain about your anger, frequent racial comments(thinking nothing of calling a child on your kids sports team a half-breed…really?), then attacking someone who you fired badly…jury is out AC….as you say, MOVING ON!
Sometimes a situation gets toxic….you just have to move on. If you and your co-workers get on each others nerves, it can not be repaired. Like Adam said, moving on. Ok, but the the Thursday Gang move was so low class. The pod casting universe was built on one show helping another show, for the greater good. One show going on another show, different network, no problem. And the asking for payment of your legal fees was also low class. Former friend suing you, former co-workers who refuse to work with/for you, your wife goes on another podcast to complain about your anger, frequent racial comments(thinking nothing of calling a child on your kids sports team a half-breed…really?), then attacking someone who you fired badly…jury is out AC….as you say, MOVING ON!
Even if she was renting the studio, which I doubt she was, he would promote her pod on his show. Couldn't she at least return the favor?
Even if she was renting the studio, which I doubt she was, he would promote her pod on his show. Couldn’t she at least return the favor?
I came to know Alison through the AC Show. I've loved listening to AC from the first episode. But, the way he fired Alison was cowardly, unfair and hurtful to her. I've totally lost respect for him. I will never download another of his shows. Fuck him. Alison helped make the AC Show what it became. I loved the team of Adam, Alison and Bryan. This feels like a cruel divorce, even betrayal. Alison is real and funny and provided a counterpoint. So now I will listen to Alison. After all, if I want to listen to a grumpy old bastard, I'll just listen to myself.
As far as we can tell, she did nothing of the sort. She's not even super liberal. She's mostly apolitical, but standard fare for LA. People in an area are stewing in that area's political biases and aren't even aware of how it affects their thinking. It was interesting to hear their takes on the recent “racial” shootings by police and neighborhood watch. Weeks after the real story was getting out Alison and Bryan both were steeped in the leftish version that was long-since unraveling. Just interesting. As for the other things, we don't have her version, but Adam's version is he never actually discussed these things directly with her like he would probably with Gary or Bryan. He chose to take them passive-aggressively. That also means Alison probably had a lonely work existence before the lonely firing because the lack of communication was pervasive. I've had the jobs where you try to read the tea leaves because the employer raises his eyebrows if you ever ask the “dumb” question. So, you try to wait for their lead, but you don't know what is going on behind those prodigious eyebrows, so they head fake one way and you juke the other and sometimes you guess wrong.
I came to know Alison through the AC Show. I’ve loved listening to AC from the first episode. But, the way he fired Alison was cowardly, unfair and hurtful to her. I’ve totally lost respect for him. I will never download another of his shows. Fuck him. Alison helped make the AC Show what it became. I loved the team of Adam, Alison and Bryan. This feels like a cruel divorce, even betrayal. Alison is real and funny and provided a counterpoint. So now I will listen to Alison. After all, if I want to listen to a grumpy old bastard, I’ll just listen to myself.
I don't think Kevin was right about ACE, precisely as you say, but it was illustrative how ACE tried to make it out that Kevin was an asshole. Kevin is classic guesser and Adam is classic asker (except strangely in the case of Alison, actually, he's not really full asker when it is something he can't structure- it's complicated but he is full asker when it is something cut-and-dried like punching a mic and professional standards, but in squishy people skills he's a little more guesser). It was clearly Adam who slammed the door on any future dealings with Kevin over the snafu (and the $500,000 Adam thinks Kevin took out of his pocket, though I feel that interpretation is a little dubious).. I'm sure Adam was “correct” in the course of events, but Kevin seems to avoid conflict and actually tries to cater to his fans. Kevin kow tows to the liberal mafia, but don't hate the playa, as the saying goes. He got cold feet, Ralph Garman apparently isn't as prickly (or vindictive) and things just fell through. Kevin has to work in Hollywood and Adam has a solo-captained pirate ship. It just makes sense. Adam and Kevin would be an odd couple, but a great combo, INCLUDING Adam making offensive comments and Kevin acting guffawed and saying “you can't say THAT!”, but alas it can never be. I'm sure every ultra-successful person has bad days and cultivates an image, but the facts are Kevin adopted Ace's old roommate and seems to pick up and keep associates as fast as ACE alienates them. I don't have a problem with anyone (least of all the “new gang”), but I want to see Alison do a “pilot” interview show with Bryan Johnson (like a Regis and Kelly meets Between Two Ferns). Alas, it could never be. This is why we can't have nice things.
As far as we can tell, she did nothing of the sort. She’s not even super liberal. She’s mostly apolitical, but standard fare for LA. People in an area are stewing in that area’s political biases and aren’t even aware of how it affects their thinking. It was interesting to hear their takes on the recent “racial” shootings by police and neighborhood watch. Weeks after the real story was getting out Alison and Bryan both were steeped in the leftish version that was long-since unraveling. Just interesting. As for the other things, we don’t have her version, but Adam’s version is he never actually discussed these things directly with her like he would probably with Gary or Bryan. He chose to take them passive-aggressively. That also means Alison probably had a lonely work existence before the lonely firing because the lack of communication was pervasive. I’ve had the jobs where you try to read the tea leaves because the employer raises his eyebrows if you ever ask the “dumb” question. So, you try to wait for their lead, but you don’t know what is going on behind those prodigious eyebrows, so they head fake one way and you juke the other and sometimes you guess wrong.
I don’t think Kevin was right about ACE, precisely as you say, but it was illustrative how ACE tried to make it out that Kevin was an asshole. Kevin is classic guesser and Adam is classic asker (except strangely in the case of Alison, actually, he’s not really full asker when it is something he can’t structure- it’s complicated but he is full asker when it is something cut-and-dried like punching a mic and professional standards, but in squishy people skills he’s a little more guesser). It was clearly Adam who slammed the door on any future dealings with Kevin over the snafu (and the $500,000 Adam thinks Kevin took out of his pocket, though I feel that interpretation is a little dubious).. I’m sure Adam was “correct” in the course of events, but Kevin seems to avoid conflict and actually tries to cater to his fans. Kevin kow tows to the liberal mafia, but don’t hate the playa, as the saying goes. He got cold feet, Ralph Garman apparently isn’t as prickly (or vindictive) and things just fell through. Kevin has to work in Hollywood and Adam has a solo-captained pirate ship. It just makes sense. Adam and Kevin would be an odd couple, but a great combo, INCLUDING Adam making offensive comments and Kevin acting guffawed and saying “you can’t say THAT!”, but alas it can never be. I’m sure every ultra-successful person has bad days and cultivates an image, but the facts are Kevin adopted Ace’s old roommate and seems to pick up and keep associates as fast as ACE alienates them. I don’t have a problem with anyone (least of all the “new gang”), but I want to see Alison do a “pilot” interview show with Bryan Johnson (like a Regis and Kelly meets Between Two Ferns). Alas, it could never be. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Jeez. Was he just holding the barrel to your skull or really pushing it into your cranium? Or was it a nail gun? I'm guessing a Paslode filled with framing nails.
Wow. Way to drag your personal issues and insecurities into something that has nothing to do with you.
There is no denying that she failed to contribute to the show. It never even occurred to me she was supposed to be an active contributor, because she mostly just adlibs half a sentence from time to time. Always a favorite part of mine and a nice contrast to Adam, but she really could have sparkled more. Timid people don't make for good radio.
Jeez. Was he just holding the barrel to your skull or really pushing it into your cranium? Or was it a nail gun? I’m guessing a Paslode filled with framing nails.
Wow. Way to drag your personal issues and insecurities into something that has nothing to do with you.
There is no denying that she failed to contribute to the show. It never even occurred to me she was supposed to be an active contributor, because she mostly just adlibs half a sentence from time to time. Always a favorite part of mine and a nice contrast to Adam, but she really could have sparkled more. Timid people don’t make for good radio.
I read this comment about 3 minutes ago and it took me this long to reply because I was laughing too hard to type
you mean duckling… I don't think unicorns are Alison's thing
Turns out it's circling around the same rant 500 times and blaming others for every single one of my problems. He has my sympathy, not my money or my time.
I read this comment about 3 minutes ago and it took me this long to reply because I was laughing too hard to type
you mean duckling… I don’t think unicorns are Alison’s thing
Turns out it’s circling around the same rant 500 times and blaming others for every single one of my problems. He has my sympathy, not my money or my time.
Watch me! Because she was with a guy who filled up all the space and then secretly resented it while also CONSTANTLY complaining people didn't go directly along with his point. Which is actually fine except that if he is going to do that he needs to communicate when the mics are cold (or hot) but he never did. Remember, he also now says his North Star is Robin Quivers. Isn't what she always does is adlibs half a sentence? Alison is not a professional sidekick, this is certainly true. But she could have been coached had he burned half a calorie over 4 years on the task instead of failing. The proof in the pudding will be when his sidekick tryouts reveal that none of them have any talent other than filling air with inaneness. Let's say Alison is a 9 on comedy and a 5 for inane BS. I think the easy thing to do is train someone to impruve their inane BS.
Yeah but still…
Watch me! Because she was with a guy who filled up all the space and then secretly resented it while also CONSTANTLY complaining people didn’t go directly along with his point. Which is actually fine except that if he is going to do that he needs to communicate when the mics are cold (or hot) but he never did. Remember, he also now says his North Star is Robin Quivers. Isn’t what she always does is adlibs half a sentence? Alison is not a professional sidekick, this is certainly true. But she could have been coached had he burned half a calorie over 4 years on the task instead of failing. The proof in the pudding will be when his sidekick tryouts reveal that none of them have any talent other than filling air with inaneness. Let’s say Alison is a 9 on comedy and a 5 for inane BS. I think the easy thing to do is train someone to impruve their inane BS.
Yeah but still…
I think you have great chemistry with Fitz! Any chance of a partnership there (not sidekick)? I'd sign up. I'm not suggesting you can't be successful on your own – I just like two people more than one and I think you two compliment each other well. (vote this up if you agree ppl!)
I think you have great chemistry with Fitz! Any chance of a partnership there (not sidekick)? I’d sign up. I’m not suggesting you can’t be successful on your own – I just like two people more than one and I think you two compliment each other well. (vote this up if you agree ppl!)
I agree that Alison is a people person and therefore her show should have more people talking with her on it. I think her next step should be to add a 3rd show each week that also contains a group of people like her Thursday show. Changing her Monday show to being her and Fitz with a guest isn't a bad idea.
I agree that Alison is a people person and therefore her show should have more people talking with her on it. I think her next step should be to add a 3rd show each week that also contains a group of people like her Thursday show. Changing her Monday show to being her and Fitz with a guest isn’t a bad idea.
Ahhhhh, I can finally return to watching ACS. Alison was too annoying for me to endure. And Adam's description of her behavior confirmed my impression. She's a narcissist and a hypocrite. “Hunting is bad…but I eat meat.” She is happy to preach her leftist views and wants to be seen as enlightened and compassionate but when it came to her own life she was entirely self-absorbed and only took an interest in those around her in order to use them.
Ahhhhh, I can finally return to watching ACS. Alison was too annoying for me to endure. And Adam’s description of her behavior confirmed my impression. She’s a narcissist and a hypocrite. “Hunting is bad…but I eat meat.” She is happy to preach her leftist views and wants to be seen as enlightened and compassionate but when it came to her own life she was entirely self-absorbed and only took an interest in those around her in order to use them.
Class act. I am going to miss you. You are smart funny, smart, destine and for great things.
Class act. I am going to miss you. You are smart funny, smart, destine and for great things.
I just listened to the ACS podcast from Jan 12. From that I learned
-Alison didn't put the logo Adam wanted on her podcast
-Alison didn't put the earnings of her Amazon banner, on a page hosted by Adam's company, towards the patent troll fight, even though podcasters that had nothing to do with Carolla Digitial were kicking in.
Not explicitly said, but:
-Alison never plugged the Adam Carolla show on her own Podcast, even though she is on it.
All of these things are grounds to be fired in show business, or any business really.
That being said I loved Alison on the show and will miss her on it.
I just listened to the ACS podcast from Jan 12. From that I learned
-Alison didn’t put the logo Adam wanted on her podcast
-Alison didn’t put the earnings of her Amazon banner, on a page hosted by Adam’s company, towards the patent troll fight, even though podcasters that had nothing to do with Carolla Digitial were kicking in.
Not explicitly said, but:
-Alison never plugged the Adam Carolla show on her own Podcast, even though she is on it.
All of these things are grounds to be fired in show business, or any business really.
That being said I loved Alison on the show and will miss her on it.
Alison,
I am a little confused how Adam dropped you. He could have been more complimentary to you and thankful for 4 years of great service. It was abrupt and I think it may be hard to find a good replacement. Putting you on the air to say goodbye could have helped. I don't think you were going to go postal. It may have been uncomfortable but I think you would like to say goodbye to your ACS fans on hiss show.
If your goodbye did not work out, he could choose not to include it in the podcast.
I think that listening to your own podcast makes me think you did not fit in with Adams show anymore. You seem not to share a lot of Adams views and were tired of dealing or going along with it. I think when you first started, you were very funny, especially with the one liners sprinkled throughout Adams constant drone rantathon. But as Brian got his act together recovering from the surgery, you kind of were less committed and less needed. I felt that slowly you became less and less interested. You were not into talking about his sports and racing intetests. The “zip it c*#$t” was particularly something that was overdone and I felt embarrassed for you when you said it in front of older more respectable guests. I think your news segment got worse over time as you seemed less and less prepared, but that may have been a result of Adam cutting it short or not letting you get the full story out. I wish you well and do believe there is a bright future in the comedy or journalism world for you.
Alison,
I am a little confused how Adam dropped you. He could have been more complimentary to you and thankful for 4 years of great service. It was abrupt and I think it may be hard to find a good replacement. Putting you on the air to say goodbye could have helped. I don’t think you were going to go postal. It may have been uncomfortable but I think you would like to say goodbye to your ACS fans on hiss show.
If your goodbye did not work out, he could choose not to include it in the podcast.
I think that listening to your own podcast makes me think you did not fit in with Adams show anymore. You seem not to share a lot of Adams views and were tired of dealing or going along with it. I think when you first started, you were very funny, especially with the one liners sprinkled throughout Adams constant drone rantathon. But as Brian got his act together recovering from the surgery, you kind of were less committed and less needed. I felt that slowly you became less and less interested. You were not into talking about his sports and racing intetests. The “zip it c*#$t” was particularly something that was overdone and I felt embarrassed for you when you said it in front of older more respectable guests. I think your news segment got worse over time as you seemed less and less prepared, but that may have been a result of Adam cutting it short or not letting you get the full story out. I wish you well and do believe there is a bright future in the comedy or journalism world for you.
Oh, btw — VERY classy statement above. That's how you do it. Adam would have done better, to stick to his original non-bitchy line, and not try to make himself look better. As Henry Ford II once said, “Never complain, never explain.”
For the record nobody will ever play, my politics are closer to Adam’s than Alison’s, but I will miss her on the show. I see his points, too, and I can understand the firing. It was time for them to go their separate ways, and people shouldn’t be miffed at either of them.
Oh, btw — VERY classy statement above. That’s how you do it. Adam would have done better, to stick to his original non-bitchy line, and not try to make himself look better. As Henry Ford II once said, “Never complain, never explain.”
I did not want my money going to the so-called patent troll fight when Adam rolled over and let them get their way. It's a waste of mine and everyone else's money to continue contributing to complete nonsense. I have only ever gone to Amazon via Larry's podcast and nothing made me more annoyed than knowing that the donation would go to a losing cause. I do not want my money wasted on nonsense, and anyone who thinks that's important is delusional. I don't know what Adam is using that money for, but it's certainly not to fight any patent trolls, who STILL have the right to harass anyone they view as having money they want. Anyone who thinks Alison was at fault because she didn't put a banner on her webpage is as childish as Adam apparently is. As much as I like him, he is only “always right” either by bullying people or making excuses when he's wrong. These aren't the actions of a mature man. His kids are spoiled brats because they both overindulge them. Another thing he doesn't seem to see even though it's painfully apparent every time he discusses them. If your podcast hosts (singers, actors, etc.)need to have your same political views, you are an incredibly stupid person.
I did not want my money going to the so-called patent troll fight when Adam rolled over and let them get their way. It’s a waste of mine and everyone else’s money to continue contributing to complete nonsense. I have only ever gone to Amazon via Larry’s podcast and nothing made me more annoyed than knowing that the donation would go to a losing cause. I do not want my money wasted on nonsense, and anyone who thinks that’s important is delusional. I don’t know what Adam is using that money for, but it’s certainly not to fight any patent trolls, who STILL have the right to harass anyone they view as having money they want. Anyone who thinks Alison was at fault because she didn’t put a banner on her webpage is as childish as Adam apparently is. As much as I like him, he is only “always right” either by bullying people or making excuses when he’s wrong. These aren’t the actions of a mature man. His kids are spoiled brats because they both overindulge them. Another thing he doesn’t seem to see even though it’s painfully apparent every time he discusses them. If your podcast hosts (singers, actors, etc.)need to have your same political views, you are an incredibly stupid person.
Those are grounds to being fired in the sense that almost any bad reason for being fired is technically legal if the boss gets a wild hair up his ass.
“comments comments comments” except that she was working with Gary on the design of the banner.
My guess is she didn't realize Adam needed cross promotion badly and he was too proud to ask her directly for it So she was confused about why her podcast was singled out as requiring a huge banner. It was because hers was the successful one that she brought to Carolla digital. I bet if she was made to understand she would have complied, while at the same time making sure the banner was appropriate- which she wad already doing when Gary got frustrated with the perfectionism and dropped it. Since her podcast is half her gig perfection in its promotion is critical to her (and something she might even credit to Adam's mentorship) Adam has tons of side projects he didn't have the motivation to talk to her but had the time to get pissed and passive aggressive over the perceived insult- the lesson being, assume when your boss drops something it is really important to him. . . Because he is a nut.
I don't entirely agree with this. The patent troll's business model is that no one person can fight the broken patent system. So Adam tried. But the patent trolls were partly right that the deck is stacked against any individual. Adam is performing a public service and pays dearly for it because most of the benefit is spread to other podcasters. He also is not a legal expert bUT we can assume the trolls are experts in all the legal gimmicks available to them. He should not be mad however when others can't afford to pay dearly for his optional crusade that benefits everyone else. But he was. Whoever can outlast and out spend is the house in our casino patent system. This is why you think the money was wasted but I consider trying admirable. His problem came in assuming everyone would take his project on as their own and getting pissed when they didn't or couldn't.
He also shouldn't be mad at Alison for the liberal douche bags who drape themselves in the first amendment and then promptly try to stifle opinions they disagree with. He talks for a living so I can understand his disgust with the pompous left. But that isn't Alison's fault that liberal dirty tricks work any more than it is alison's fault that Patent trolling “works”.
And I think his kids are swell.
CRAZY idea that could never happen. What if you got a mediator between you for a reconciliation podcast? It probably should be a respected therapist, so how's 'bout Jo Koy or Jay Mohr (as Big Momma Gotitall)?
I know, can't happen because you hate money and great pod!
(PS I only subscribed to Kevin Smith after the ACS hash out)
Those are grounds to being fired in the sense that almost any bad reason for being fired is technically legal if the boss gets a wild hair up his ass.
“comments comments comments” except that she was working with Gary on the design of the banner.
My guess is she didn’t realize Adam needed cross promotion badly and he was too proud to ask her directly for it So she was confused about why her podcast was singled out as requiring a huge banner. It was because hers was the successful one that she brought to Carolla digital. I bet if she was made to understand she would have complied, while at the same time making sure the banner was appropriate- which she wad already doing when Gary got frustrated with the perfectionism and dropped it. Since her podcast is half her gig perfection in its promotion is critical to her (and something she might even credit to Adam’s mentorship) Adam has tons of side projects he didn’t have the motivation to talk to her but had the time to get pissed and passive aggressive over the perceived insult- the lesson being, assume when your boss drops something it is really important to him. . . Because he is a nut.
I don’t entirely agree with this. The patent troll’s business model is that no one person can fight the broken patent system. So Adam tried. But the patent trolls were partly right that the deck is stacked against any individual. Adam is performing a public service and pays dearly for it because most of the benefit is spread to other podcasters. He also is not a legal expert bUT we can assume the trolls are experts in all the legal gimmicks available to them. He should not be mad however when others can’t afford to pay dearly for his optional crusade that benefits everyone else. But he was. Whoever can outlast and out spend is the house in our casino patent system. This is why you think the money was wasted but I consider trying admirable. His problem came in assuming everyone would take his project on as their own and getting pissed when they didn’t or couldn’t.
He also shouldn’t be mad at Alison for the liberal douche bags who drape themselves in the first amendment and then promptly try to stifle opinions they disagree with. He talks for a living so I can understand his disgust with the pompous left. But that isn’t Alison’s fault that liberal dirty tricks work any more than it is alison’s fault that Patent trolling “works”.
And I think his kids are swell.
CRAZY idea that could never happen. What if you got a mediator between you for a reconciliation podcast? It probably should be a respected therapist, so how’s ’bout Jo Koy or Jay Mohr (as Big Momma Gotitall)?
I know, can’t happen because you hate money and great pod!
(PS I only subscribed to Kevin Smith after the ACS hash out)
This is how you handle a situation like this. Class. Good job Alison. What puzzles me is the logo issue. I just cannot imagine Alison (as sensitive, intelligent & GRATEFUL as she is to Adam) saying “No Adam I don't want your logo on my podcast”. Why would she do something so obtuse & carelessly hurtful to essentially her mentor. This does not add up.
This is how you handle a situation like this. Class. Good job Alison. What puzzles me is the logo issue. I just cannot imagine Alison (as sensitive, intelligent & GRATEFUL as she is to Adam) saying “No Adam I don’t want your logo on my podcast”. Why would she do something so obtuse & carelessly hurtful to essentially her mentor. This does not add up.
I'm always way behind on podcasts….usually listen in the car or while on my hour walks. I, only today, found out about this situation by listening to the podcast. I'll still listen to Adam's podcasts and yours. For the fan's sakes, It wasn't political differences, Bryan doesn't agree with Ace all the time either and he's an integral part of that show.
Carolla runs on whims sometimes. His business.
Alison's podcast will do well and I look forward to future listening to both.
Cast no aspursions
I’m always way behind on podcasts….usually listen in the car or while on my hour walks. I, only today, found out about this situation by listening to the podcast. I’ll still listen to Adam’s podcasts and yours. For the fan’s sakes, It wasn’t political differences, Bryan doesn’t agree with Ace all the time either and he’s an integral part of that show.
Carolla runs on whims sometimes. His business.
Alison’s podcast will do well and I look forward to future listening to both.
Cast no aspursions
Alison Rosen is a rare bird. Beautiful, intelligent, funny and classy. She deserved better. So did the listeners. (They should have decided together on her departure date from the show.) I will no longer be listening to the ACS.
Alison Rosen is a rare bird. Beautiful, intelligent, funny and classy. She deserved better. So did the listeners. (They should have decided together on her departure date from the show.) I will no longer be listening to the ACS.
Adam constantly tried to make Alison the voice of all women, yet by answering as only she could and not for all women, she always replied as an individual. Thus thwarting Adam’s attempts to label all women as the same, just like he tried to label all men the same, all black people the same, all Mexican people the same….
Damn, this is funny! Lol
Damn, this is funny! Lol
Nice try Fitz!
Nice try Fitz!
Ill miss you on that show… truly.
I dont even want to listen to it now.
Ill miss you on that show… truly.
I dont even want to listen to it now.
Nice to know that I’m not the only one who got that feeling though…
I can't help to think that AC is comng unglued and not all is well with the pirate steerng the ship. AC could be having personal or financial problems, or the show has stalled and a desparation move was made. Add to this that AC is competitive and Alisons podcast is beating his.
If AC were let go the way Alison was we would never hear the end of that story like so many others.
Alison was a good fifty percent of the reason I listened. I thought her timing was great especially in the live shows. I will listen to Alisons show more than adams.
I can’t help to think that AC is comng unglued and not all is well with the pirate steerng the ship. AC could be having personal or financial problems, or the show has stalled and a desparation move was made. Add to this that AC is competitive and Alisons podcast is beating his.
If AC were let go the way Alison was we would never hear the end of that story like so many others.
Alison was a good fifty percent of the reason I listened. I thought her timing was great especially in the live shows. I will listen to Alisons show more than adams.
Uh, wasn't Carolla dismissed from the patent lawsuit? That's a victory.
Uh, wasn’t Carolla dismissed from the patent lawsuit? That’s a victory.
Since I have gotten a few up votes on this comment, here’s the Dawson conversation that I linked to:
DawsAngeles @DawsAngeles
“@lifeboathq: @DawsAngeles You were *great* on http://t.co/gmJIyMrXIA” I had fun and love @AlisonRosen.
08:14 AM – 15 Jan 15
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shannon hurley @shannonhurley 2 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
@DawsAngeles @lifeboathq @AlisonRosen Aww. That was a great episode!
11:11 PM – 15 Jan 2015
Well said…and if I recall, “zip it…” was Adam's creation, not Alison's.
Well said…and if I recall, “zip it…” was Adam’s creation, not Alison’s.
I disagree. Perhaps it’s because Adam was making Road Hard, but the last few months have had few truly funny moments. I stopped listening and missed all this drama, but not before seeing the show start to tank.
But, during that time Adam devolved into some fallacious assertions about politics, including race, that sounded like appalling right-wing drivel.
I’m not partisan. I’m a libertarian, but the stuff he said was weakly supported and bigoted. And when I say support I mean it had no substratum reasonable or humorous enough to support its expression. I know he’s not a bigot, but he sure sounded like one for lack of preparation and clear thinking. Again, probably because of his nasty schedule.
I listen to Opie and Anthony and I think the same about them, but they can always couch their opinions in some reasonable argument or their is a self-loathing comical twist to their observation.
When Adam would say some of this stuff I would often ask myself, “How does Alison listen to this stuff and not pop out of her skin?” Go back and listen. He went back to his old standards on race and society, but with a foggy headed mind due to lack of sleep and being over-scheduled it sounded horrible and indefensible.
Alison was very patient and smart about tip-toeing around those landmines, but you can only walk on point for so long.
I super miss her on the show! I was shocked when I heard. Will be listening and supporting ARIYNBF.
I super miss her on the show! I was shocked when I heard. Will be listening and supporting ARIYNBF.
Where was the amazing, funny stuff? All my screen shows is some disjointed rambling, like Larry King got hold of a Keyboard. Is there a code you have to type in?
Where was the amazing, funny stuff? All my screen shows is some disjointed rambling, like Larry King got hold of a Keyboard. Is there a code you have to type in?
According to her podcast, she offered suggestions and was more than willing to work something out, but there was no interest other than the Amazon thing.